The Queen Alexandra séance
Some years later Alexandra attended a séance in London
with the Scottish medium John Sloan*
to communicate with her husband in the spirit world.
Then in 1960 Alexandra returned to communicate for herself,
for the first time since her own death, at this Leslie Flint séance.
The first communicator is Dr Charles Marshall.
*The John Sloan séance was also attended by Sir William Barrett, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sir Thomas Lipton, Sir Oliver Lodge,
and scientists Richard E. Byrd and Guglielmo Marconi.
Details taken from the book 'On the Edge of the Etheric' by J Arthur Findlay.
Present:
George Woods, Betty Greene, Leslie Flint.
Marshall:
...come
and talk to you again. I was wondering if you could
hear?
Greene:
Yes,
we can hear you very plainly.
Marshall:
Marshall
here.
Woods/Greene:
Yes.
Marshall:
There
are several souls here who are quite new to
it.
Greene:
Good.
Marshall:
As
a matter of fact I'm rather hoping that, um, we might be able to
bring some of them through to you...uh, but there may be
difficulty...um, it may take several sittings, but nevertheless we
shall see...um, I know how interested you are in making contact with
certain entities and souls from this side who can be of interest to
people on your side and, uh, the subject matter which they could
discuss would be of great value...um, but as I've already said, a
number of them are quite new to communication and probably will find
it very difficult at first and may need, uh, several attempts. I
doubt if they will necessarily succeed on the first go. Anyway we'll
see what we can do.
Greene:
Thank
you.
Woods:
Thank
you very much.
Marshall:
Just
be patient for a second or two. I hope we shan't be
long.
Greene:
Thank
you.
Woods:
Thank
you very much Dr. Marshall.
[Short
pause]
[Flint
sniffing]
[Sound
of traffic from
outside]
Greene:
Hello?
Woods:
Hello.
Alexandra:
How
do you do?
Greene:
How
do you do?
Woods:
How
do you do?
[Short
pause]
[Flint
sniffing]
Woods:
Hello?
Alexandra:
I
do not know if you can hear?
Woods:
Yes.
Greene:
We
can hear very plainly...
Woods:
You're
very plain.
Alexandra:
It's
very difficult.
Woods:
Very
plainly.
Alexandra:
I
find great difficulty in speaking to you, but I will endeavour to
try.
Greene:
Yes,
we can hear you.
Woods:
We
can hear you.
Greene:
Who
is it speaking?
Woods:
Come
along friend, we can hear you...
[Flint
sniffing]
Woods:
...quite
clear.
It's quite clear.
Greene:
Sounds
quite clear, yes.
[Longer
pause]
[Flint
sniffing]
[Some
digital interference]
Woods:
Hello?
Greene:
Hello?
Woods:
Hello...
Alexandra:
I
do apologise. It's extremely difficult, much more difficult than one
would have thought.
Greene:
Yes?
Who is it speaking please?
Woods:
Very
clear.
Greene:
Yes...
Woods:
You
are very clear, we can hear you quite well.
Alexandra:
I'm
so sorry, because I do feel that I'm...
[Short
pause]
Greene:
Can
you give us your name?
Alexandra:
My
name is Alexandra.
Woods:
Oh
yes, yes.
[Flint
sniffing]
Greene:
Alexandra?
Woods:
We
can hear you quite well.
Greene:
Well,
come along, it's lovely.
[Short
pause]
Woods:
It's
quite clear.
Alexandra:
I
have never been able to speak before in this fashion, but I have
often desired to do so.
Greene:
You
are doing very well.
Alexandra:
I
am here with many who...like my self...who still take a very great
interest in affairs of this country, indeed with the whole
world.
Woods:
Yes.
Greene:
Yes?
...um,
may I ask you a question?
Alexandra:
I
know what you are going to ask me my dear.
Greene:
You
do?
Alexandra:
Yes
I am.
Greene:
Queen
Alexandra? Of course...ahh!
Alexandra:
But
I should say I was,
because I am no longer in that capacity. Over here, we are, of
course, without title.
Greene/Woods:
Yes.
Alexandra:
We
are here known for ourselves, as we are by our nature and our
character; not because of our position when on Earth.
Greene:
Oh
please, will you please tell us all how you passed over and what you
are doing?
Alexandra:
That
is...
Woods:
I
remember you quite well.
Greene:
As
do I.
Woods:
Yes.
Alexandra:
You
know...life...is...much more than it appears on the surface. I have
discovered only too well that the only...important thing is....to
do...God's work.
Woods:
Yes...yes.
Alexandra:
Sometimes
we do not always see...the opportunity that lies... at our very
doorstep. Often a man or woman will go far afield and yet, if only he
can perceive it, the opportunity is within himself and right beside
him. In my life, I, of course within certain limits, was able to do a
certain amount for the good of the world.
But
I realise that if one is to serve humanity, if one is to do the work
that will bring about peace, bring about tranquility of spirit and a
harmony between nations and people, we must above all things, look
internationally rather than nationally. The days have gone when one
can put one's self or one's own country first. I have come to the
conclusion that we must have an international spirit.
We
must break down the barriers that stand between peoples and nations.
We must remember now...that science has brought together all the
peoples as if it were, they were under one roof. There is no distance
any more. Man is living almost, you might say, living upon each
other's doorstep. You can no longer afford to have these barriers
that man has built up through centuries of time.
We
must learn how to live together in peace, realising the consequences
of war, realising that now there is no escape for anyone. Therefore,
those ideas of the past when we felt that we could live securely, as
it were, in our fortress island; those days have gone forever. There
are no barriers now, there is no wall of protection. The sea no
longer protects this island.
In
other words, man has advanced scientifically to such a degree, that
he has made...life very difficult, and since there is so much fear in
the world, one must find the way to eradicate it. One must have faith
and trust, and one must see the nations of the world united in
harmony and in peace. In realising the consequences of war in itself,
you would have thought would have been sufficient to have prevented
any nation, or nations, thinking along the old lines, and yet there
are still those in your world who have not learned the lesson of the
past.
Wars
beget wars, hatred begets hatred, intolerance begets intolerance. We
must find the solution to these things. We must try to make man
everywhere, conscious of his inheritance; the inheritance which is by
nature his very own; that you are all the children of a living God
and that there are no barriers, that you are all one, irrespective of
class or creed or colour or language.
No
longer can one think in the terms of empires. Today you must think in
the terms of harmony among all
peoples...
Greene:
Yes...
Alexandra:
...among
all nations. In fact, it seems to me that you must now consider
yourself a member of every nation, of every race. No longer can you
say that you are this or that you are that. There are no barriers
left, only what man in ignorance and foolishness makes within
himself. You have now a great opportunity, a wonderful opportunity to
form a new conception of life, a new way of life.
I
feel sure that this fear that rests so strongly upon nations will
give way to something which will be very wonderful. I feel within
myself that this realisation that war is now impossible, for if it
were to be, it would be the destruction of all that you know and
cherish. I think that this realisation of power, atomic power, will,
in the end, bring all men together and fear will be eradicated and
love and harmony will prevail. Of course there are many difficulties,
but they can be overcome.
We
would like to see a universal language. If that could be brought into
being, it would be a tremendous step in the right direction. I do
hope that can be tried or brought into being.
Greene:
Could
you tell us something of your, what you're doing over...
[Flint
sniffing]
Greene:
...on
the other side, your life...now?
[Short
pause]
Alexandra:
My
life here has been one of constant change. And by that I mean, that
as I have gained knowledge and experience so I have found myself, in
consequence, in different environments according to my progression.
And during that period of time which I have been here, I have seen
many aspects of life, many changes, many peoples; who have in
themselves been responsible for much of my education, much of my
experience and development.
One
goes through various phases, various spheres, according to one's
development when one has left Earth. Fortunately, although I had no
knowledge, in the accepted sense, of life after death, I had a great
inner consciousness, a great inner realisation that life did
continue. And when I came here it was not as if I were in a life that
was so strange as perhaps it might have been to some. To me it was
not unfamiliar and I realise too that during my so-called sleep-state
when on Earth, I had oft-times travelled into the realm of spirit and
had, as it were, foreseen many of the peoples and places which I
should eventually meet and inherit, in consequence of the transition
called death.
I
have seen many great souls, many whom I knew when on Earth, many who
had passed before me, and they often have been of great help to me in
guiding me and taking me to various spheres and various places. I
have gone through many schools or conditions of education. I have
learned many things, and I now am able to teach. And I have, for some
considerable time, as you term time, visited lower spheres to teach
those who are less fortunate; to give them an insight into a way of
life that they might develop themselves and lift themselves out of
the darkness in which they exist: the darkness of their own minds,
and thereby see and know of that which is further afield, and yet can
be, if they so wished, very near.
For
everything here is a matter of degree, a matter of development of
mind and of spirit and the realisation that comes, that one can
progress and that the way to progress is through learning and
experiencing and putting into practice the things that you have
gained in knowledge.
I
have done a great deal, I feel, in that direction, and I have been
able to assist many earthbound souls and many who were, as it were,
on lower spheres here; undeveloped and un-progressed. But among those
that I have found most difficult, have been those who seemed to have
clung desperately to old religious beliefs, those who have, as it
were, had very fixed ideas. They to me are the most difficult people
to deal with.
Those
whose minds are more open, more receptive, are much easier obviously
to be...to help and to give knowledge to and develop. But those whose
minds are closed, those who have a very strong narrow conception, of
religion particularly, I have found most difficult. In fact it is
very extraordinary the attitude that some of these souls [doubt].
There are, for instance, large numbers or groups of souls entirely
within their own mind, in which they consider that they are the only
ones who exist on this sphere of life or phase of existence. In other
words, they are waiting for the great resurrection day, when they
shall return to Earth and inherit the Kingdom of God upon
Earth.
They
have this narrow conception: that they are in a condition of life or
suspension of time in which...until which time they will reform on
Earth in their physical bodies. Very difficult to make them change
their outlook and idea and way of life; I would not say they are
unhappy, but they are living in such a restricted, narrow, confined
space and condition of mind, that we have had great difficulty in
having any effect or in reaching them. In fact they, to my way of
thinking, are the most difficult.
Greene:
Mmm...
May
I ask you another question?
Alexandra:
Yes,
of course.
Greene:
Can
you tell us actually when you passed over, where you found your self,
in what...uh...I was going to say, not exactly 'country', but how you
found your self?
Alexandra:
I...remember
very vividly awakening in a room which was very reminiscent of a room
that I've been very fond of, many years previously in my earthly
existence. In every way it seemed to be an exact replica: the
colourings, the materials, the furnishings. In fact everything about
it was a perfect reproduction; in fact, so much so, that I did not
realise at first that I passed on at all. And I remember only too
well the very beautiful view from the window, with the beautiful
green grass, lawn and terrace and at the bottom, far in the distance,
the river.
It
was a spot which I had been most fond. And in this room on my
awakening were many of my relations and friends that I had known. It
was almost like a kind of reception, which of course it was. And I
must admit it was a great joy to me, to meet all these friends and
all these souls that had meant so much to me in my Earthly life, and
to have the feeling of peace and the realisation that it was an
environment in the very room in which I was most happy. It was a room
that had given me great joy and pleasure many, many years
previously.
In
fact, I have now realised only too well that I was most fortunate in
my passing, that I should have been so blessed. And I've oft-times
turned over in my mind many of the things and the happenings of
Earth. And I've tried so often to try to realise why I should have
been most fortunate. I realise of course in my own way, and in a kind
of way, perhaps rather in a narrow way, I endeavoured to do what I
could to serve and to help. But you know it's an extraordinary thing,
when one as attached as I was to a family that is called to service
and has to take upon itself the weight and responsibility of the
Crown, one is, in a sense, although oft-times serving, one is often,
in a sense, doing work in a narrow field. By that, what I mean is,
that although one may serve here and there, one may be called upon to
do this or that duty.
Nevertheless,
to some extent, you are doing things, not exactly automatically, but
you are doing them because partly it is your duty, which one must do,
secondly because it is essential and important in the State sense,
but often one feels that there are things one might have done or
would have liked to have done, but one...one was not able to do. In
fact, if one were to have endeavoured to do certain things, it would
have caused friction or it would have caused comment in certain
quarters, in fact, perhaps would have been resented.
Often,
you know, when...I was visiting, or perhaps...when I was staying in a
certain place, certain things would be brought to my attention - not
by those around and about me in position, but by often, accident, not
by design and I would be appalled at certain things that I
experienced or witnessed, particularly among the poor. Poverty was
something which affected me very much, and yet I felt so helpless,
could do so little, and in a small way I did try. But you know,
particularly in my day, it was extremely difficult for a person in my
position to do very much for the poor.
And
I was ever conscious of the poor and ever wanting to help them, and
it was one of the greatest disappointments in my life; that I felt
that a person in my position and with - what so many people
considered and I suppose can be considered - power, could do so
little, in fact nothing. And I think it was one of the greatest
disappointments of my life, that I could do so little for those who
needed so much.
Poverty
worried me terribly. It gave me great pain, and there was so much in
my day. I was so used to the pomp and the ceremony, so used to the
pleasanter, happier side of life. Everything was made, of course,
pleasant and as nice as one could possibly hope, and yet I was ever
conscious of the poverty and endeavoured to help as far as I could -
in the hospitals too.
Over
here, for instance, I take a great interest in mental illness, which
of course is a great deal of the cause of the unhappiness of the
world, in your world I mean, and to a great extent our world too. For
much of those...much of the trial and trouble here, among those less
developed, is the mental condition. In fact I would go as far as to
say, that a great deal of the world's troubles in illness and in
other ways, is due to the mind. If only we can reach the minds of
people and change their outlook and their attitude, if only we can do
that, and that, of course, is what we are constantly trying to
do.
We
are trying to reach the minds of humanity wherever they may be,
irrespective of their condition in life. Whatever their nationality,
we are constantly working upon the minds of peoples, especially those
in high places who hold the destiny of nations in their hands. We are
striving to instil peace, instil the things that are of God, that
they might come together in the future and save the world from
itself, from destruction. This I am convinced shall be done, and I
feel sure that man will find a new path, a new way of life where he
can work in harmony and in love, nation with nation, peoples with
peoples, and God's will can be brought into being. We are striving
desperately for this, to do all in our power to help.
Woods:
May
I ask you a question?
Alexandra:
Yes,
my friend.
Woods:
May
I ask, have you met the late King?
Alexandra:
I
have of course, met all members of our
family.
Woods:
Yes.
Alexandra:
And
perhaps at some future time, others may be able to speak to you. I
have long desired to come and speak and I should have to come again.
I must go.
Greene:
May
I give a message to
you...for
anybody from you?
Alexandra:
I
doubt if it would be received.
Greene:
Well,
that's the point, you see, yes.
Alexandra:
But
this is all that really matters, that we continue to serve and to
help, in a wider sense, all mankind. No longer restricted, no longer
are we, in any way, made to conform to politics or to religion. Now
we are not tied in any sense. We are free to speak and to act,
completely and absolutely as children, as we are indeed of one God,
endeavouring to serve all his children all the world over. That is
freedom. Freedom of spirit. To work, to serve and to love all the
childrens of the Earth, all the nations of the Earth. We are now one
great family: God's family. Bless you my friends.
Woods:
I
remember...
Greene:
Thank
you very much for coming.
Woods:
I
remember you so well...
Greene:
So
do I.
Mickey:
Buh-bye!
Greene:
Oh
goodbye Mickey, thank you Mickey.
Woods:
Thank
you so much.
This transcript was created by Russell Symonds.
The digital recording was created from the original master tape by Jack Terrence Andrews - November 2004.