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Fred communicates

Recorded: October 17th 1984

“This business of being dead...
Lot of rubbish - I'm not dead.”

Fred is blunt and down-to-earth

and he hasn't really progressed very far

- but he tells the truth as he sees it.

 

Fred joined the army to get away from his wife,

and in 1943 died in a sudden traffic accident.

 

He says he never got through to a medium before,

and is shocked to find that 40 years have passed since his death.

 

Mickey apologises for Fred's blunt attitude,

then another communicator explains

that souls who are Earthbound, like Fred,

can often be helped by groups of strangers...

Note: This recording has been reconstructed from original source material.
The quality improves half-way.

Please read the full transcript below as you listen...

Sitters include:

Mrs Eade, A.G. Chattell, Robert Kennedy, Leslie Flint.

 

Communicators:

Fred, Mickey, Frenchman, Mickey.

Flint:

[This séance] was recorded on the 17th of October 1984, medium Leslie Flint.

 

Fred:

Wasn't my fault...

 

Flint:

Who's that?

 

Male sitter:

Huh!

 

Female sitter:

Hello...

 

Male sitter:

What wasn't your fault?

 

Fred:

Silly sods!

 

Female sitter:

Oh!

 

Flint:

Oh! Who's that?

Oh dear!

Oh dear...

 

[Laughter]

 

Female sitter:

Someone's upset about something...

 

Male sitter:

Oh dear...

 

Fred:

Not my fault at all.

 

Female sitter:

What wasn't your fault?

 

Fred:

They say it was all my bloody fault. Not my fault at all. Silly sods.

 

Flint:

Oh dear!

Mickey...?

Oh dear.

 

[Laughter]

 

Fred:

I've always been careful. Always been too bloody scared of traffic to get bowled over by it, but the silly sods came around that corner, I don't know like what!

 

Male sitter:

Oh dear...

 

Female sitter:

Were you run over?

 

Fred:

They said it was my fault; said I stepped out.

 

Male sitter:

Oh dear...

 

Fred:

What's all this then?

 

Male sitter:

Are you all right now?

 

Fred:

I'm all right. Yeah. What about you?

 

Male sitter:

I'm all right, thank you.

 

Fred:

'Course, you're in the land of the living, ain't you?

 

Sitters:

Yes.

 

Fred:

Well I am too, in a way.

 

Male sitter:

So are you, yes.

 

Female sitter:

Yes, you're supposed to be better off.

 

Fred:

I don't understand this spook business.

 

Female sitter:

Hood business?

 

Fred:

Spook business.

 

Sitters:

Oh, spook business!

 

Female sitter:

Well, we don't look on you as spooks.

 

Male sitter:

No.

 

Fred:

I don't understand it.

 

Female sitter:

Well, ask somebody to help you.

 

Fred:

I never believed in all that spook business. I heard about it.

 

Female sitter:

Are you happy now?

 

Fred:

I used to say 'when you was dead, you was dead'.

 

Female sitter:

No, you're not.

 

Fred:

And here I am. Don't understand it.

 

Female sitter:

Aren't you glad?

 

Fred:

Well, I don't know about that. I'd rather be back on your side.

 

Sitters:

Would you?

 

Fred:

Get a bloody good meal!

 

[Laughter]

 

Female sitter:

You don't need a meal now do you?

 

Fred:

I don't know. I'm not exactly what you call unhappy, but I'm not exactly... delirious.

 

Female sitter:

Ah!

 

Male sitter:

Still a bit bewildered?

 

Fred:

This business of being dead. Lot of rubbish - I'm not dead.

 

Male sitter:

No, of course not.

 

Fred:

Damn sight more alive than some of you lot!

 

[Laughter]

 

Flint:

Dear, oh dear!

 

Fred:

Who's that long skinny fellow? Who's he?

 

Flint:

Oh dear, dear!

 

Female sitter:

Which one?

 

Male sitter:

Robert - it must be...

 

Robert:

That's right.

 

Male sitter:

Oh, that's you, Robert.

 

Fred:

Oh, he's the one with the Japanese woman then.

 

Robert:

Yes, that's right.

 

Fred:

Oh blimey!

 

[Laughter]

 

Fred:

I had enough of them when I was on your side.

 

Female sitter:

Oh!

 

Fred:

Cor, starve the bleeding crows*! I was in the army you know.

*Starve the crows = an expression of surprise

Male sitter:

Oh.

 

Fred:

Oh dear, oh dear. Ah well. I suppose you shouldn't have any bad feelings or nothing.

 

Male sitter:

You shouldn't.

 

Fred:

Well it's bloody hard not to, mate.

 

Male sitters:

I know. Yes, yes...

 

Fred:

My old wife... well, the silly old bitch.

 

[Laughter]

 

Fred:

Anyway... we never hit it off anyway.

 

Male sitter:

Where did you live when you was here?

 

Fred:

What's that got to do with you?

 

[Laughter]

 

Flint: [Laughing]

Oh dear!

 

Female sitter:

Just trying to be friendly.

 

Sitter:

Yes.

 

Male sitter:

Just interested.

 

Fred:

Don't understand you Spiritualists.

 

Flint:

Oh dear, oh dear.

 

[Laughter]

 

Female sitter:

It doesn't sound as if you want to.

 

Fred:

Well, it's not exactly that, but I feel as if I'm like Peter Pan in Never-Never Land.

 

Sitters:

Ah!

 

Fred:

Neither in your world, nor this.

 

Male sitter:

Well you'll be alright...probably when you get used to...

 

Fred:

I've been going around to these here spooky meetings - silly old so-and-so's.

 

Female sitter:

Why don't you ask someone to...

 

Fred:

They say they see things. They don't see bugger all! I went to some Spiritualist church the other day. Some silly old 'whatsit' was out on the platform saying she could see this, see that. I stood there waving me hands...

 

[Laughter]

 

Fred:

...she didn't take a blind bit of notice of me.

 

[Laughter]

 

Fred:

I don't think she saw anything. Don't understand this spook business.

 

Female sitter:

Perhaps you weren't on her wavelength?

 

Fred:

I shouldn't want to be either, by the looks of her. She's not my 'cup of tea' - dolled up to the nines with a wig on, eyes all painted with blue paint. Cor! Starve the crows - who'd want to go to bed with her?

 

[Laughter]

 

Flint: [Laughing]

Dear, oh dear!

 

[Laughter]

 

Female sitter:

Well you've certainly livened up our afternoon!

 

Fred:

Don't understand all this spook business. I'm not exactly miserable. I'm not exactly happy either. Sort of, don't feel as if I belong nowhere now.

 

Female sitters:

Oh dear!

Sounds as if you need a bit of help.

 

Fred:

And as for the old woman, well... I don't want to be with her. Bad enough with her when I was on your side. Drove me around the bleeding bend she did. Cor, dear, oh dear! She gave me a proper time, when the... I was glad, in a way, to be in the army, away from her.

 

Male sitter:

Oh dear!

I suppose...

 

Fred:

Well, you know how it is. You get an old girl into trouble, you got to get married. I suppose it's all a lot of... well, forget it. I don't understand all this spook business.

 

Male sitter:

[Have you] got any people on your side that you're friends with?

 

Fred:

Well... one or two of 'em.

 

Male sitter:

Yeah...

 

Fred:

But they seem to have got settled in.

 

Male sitter:

Have they?

 

Fred:

Yeah. Don't ask me why.

 

Male sitter:

Oh.

 

Fred:

It's down to religion I think, if you ask me.

 

Female sitter:

How about your Mum and Dad? Are they over there?

 

Fred:

I ain't seen them.

 

Male sitter:

Haven't you?

 

Fred:

They're somewhere over here I suppose.

 

Female sitter:

Ask for them.

 

Fred:

Perhaps they don't want to... I don't know.

 

Female sitter:

You should think about them a bit.

 

Male sitter:

Yes. Think about them...

 

Fred:

They tell me it's me own fault.

 

Female sitter:

Well, it might be.

 

Male sitter:

If you... if you think about them, old friend, you'll probably find that they'll pick up your thought and they'll come and see you.

 

Fred:

Perhaps they don't want to?

 

Sitters:

Oh...they might...

 

Fred:

I led them a bit of a dance when I was a young one, you know. Always in and out of trouble, I was.

 

Male sitter:

I see.

 

Fred:

Suppose I've only got myself to blame. They tell me I've got to work out, what do you call it - salvation? I thought Jesus supposed to have done that for you? He didn't do anything for me.

 

Female sitter:

Well it takes both sides.

 

Male sitter:

Oh no. No, that's...

 

Fred:

I had a relation of mine. She was in the Sally Army*. Oh Blimey! She used to drive them around the bend. She used to come and see them some afternoons for tea - sitting there with her bleeding bonnet on! Cor, dear, oh dear... she was trying to save everybody she was.

*Sally Army = Salvation Army

[Laughter]

 

Fred:

But she didn't save me... she had a go. Whether I'd have been any better off had I been saved, I don't know.

 

Female sitter:

As you say, perhaps you didn't want to be saved?

 

Fred:

Saved from what? Saved from what?

 

Sitters:

Yes...that's a point.

 

Fred:

Anyway, I suppose I better get out of it. Otherwise I'll be in for a packet!

 

[Laughter]

 

Female sitters:

Anyway, cheer up, friend.

We hope you cheer up.

 

Male sitter:

We wish you well anyway, friend.

 

Female sitter:

Cheer up!

 

Fred:

That's very nice of you.

 

Male sitter:

We give you our best wishes.

 

Fred:

What's all this I hear about - you hold these here meetings and you sit and you hold hands?

 

Female sitter:

Well that's what we're sort of doing now.

 

Male sitters:

Well... Yes.

That's the kind of...sort of thing we're doing right this minute. That's why you're talking to us.

 

Fred:

What good does that do you?

 

Male sitter:

Well, you can talk to us, can't you? The idea... the idea is, if we can get people like you to break through and talk to us, you see? We can have two-way communication between your world and our world. You see?

 

Female sitter:

One day we're going to join you, in your world.

 

Male sitter:

Oh yes.

 

Fred:

Let me know when you're coming. I'll be out.

 

[Loud laughter]

 

Female sitter:

Well thank you very much for that anyway!

 

Fred:

No. Sorry about that. I mean I'm sure you all a nice crowd and all that, but I must say I'm a bit sort of... well, I don't know.

 

Female sitters:

You're lost, aren't you?

You can't understand why we would be interested?

 

Fred:

That fellow... that fellow with that Jap woman. She's quite a pretty little thing, if you like the type.

 

Robert:

Is she there today?

 

Fred:

What do you think? I wouldn't have... and how the hell... I couldn't have said anything if I hadn't seen her, could I? You silly 'whatsit'!

 

[Laughter]

 

Robert:

That's true. You're right. You're right.

 

Fred:

I suppose you were in love with her?

 

Robert:

Well that's very true.

 

Fred:

Oh well, it takes all kinds doesn't it? Ah, well. I suppose I'll get sorted out one of these here days.

 

Male sitter:

Yes.

 

Fred:

Don't think I should bother to come back here.

 

Female sitter:

Oh, you should do.

 

Male sitter:

It's a pity.

 

Female sitter:

It'll help you won't it?

 

Male sitter:

Perhaps we can help you?

 

Fred:

Well, that's very kind of you.

 

Female sitter:

You've made friends there anyway, haven't you?

 

Fred:

Somebody told me... told me I was - what do you call it - Earthbound?

 

Female sitter:

Yeah.

 

Fred:

Well...

 

Female sitter:

You don't want to leave the Earth...

 

Fred:

I'm neither here or there. I can take the best of both worlds.

 

Male sitter:

Perhaps if you can think of somebody that you did like from this world, they'll come to you and help you.

 

Fred:

Oh, I liked a hell of a lot of people. Don't get... misunderstand you...

 

Male sitter:

No, no. But if you...

 

Fred:

There was a lot of people I was very fond of. But, uh...

 

Male sitter:

If...if you can think of one now, they may come to you and help you.

 

Fred:

Oh, will it?

 

Sitters:

Yes!

 

Female sitter:

You try it.

 

Fred:

Oh, I've had one or two preaching at me, you know. Nice fellows and all that - trying to lay down the law; saying that it's up to me, that they couldn't do it for me - I had to work out me own salvation. Well, I had enough of that relation of ours and the bloody salvation lark!

 

Male sitter:

Yes.

 

Fred:

You know, she used to preach. Cor, starve the bleeding crows! She used to come down and have a cup of tea and she'd start. Cor, I got out of that. I don't go for all that. I think everyone's responsible for his own life and his own mistakes.

 

Female sitter:

That's right.

 

Fred:

No one's going to save you. You've got to work on it yourself.

 

Male sitter:

That's quite right, friend. Quite right.

 

Sitters:

Yes...that is right.

 

Fred:

Anyway, judging by some of the people I've met here...my God! I could tell you; some of the religious ones. I understand that... well, I could go on talking about it, but they took me once to some place where they were all religious. Cor, starve the bleeding crows! Cor, dear, oh dear! 'Praise the Lord' this, that and the t'other, but it...

 

[Break in recording]

 

Fred:

[didn't] do much bleeding good.

 

Female sitter:

No.

 

Male sitter:

No. It's what you do on this Earth that counts. Who you help.

 

Fred:

You're a bit of a case, you are. What do you do for a living?

 

Male sitter: [Laughing]

Not a lot I can tell you. I work on video films.

 

Fred:

On what?

 

Male sitter:

Video films.

 

Fred:

What the hell's that?

 

Male sitter:

Ah, it's up-to-date technology, you see.

 

Fred:

Ah, before my time then... since my time then.

 

Male sitter:

Yeah.

 

Female sitter:

How long have you been there?

 

Fred:

Oh, I don't know. What's the year?

 

Male sitter:

'84.

 

Female sitter:

1984.

 

Fred:

Cor, dear! Is it?

 

Sitters:

Yes!

 

Fred:

No. Can't be. Is it?

 

Sitters:

Yes.

 

Male sitter:

Yes, 1984.

 

Female sitter:

Really.

 

Fred:

Good Lord! You're kidding?

 

Sitters:

No!

 

Male sitter:

No, no. On this side, [it's] 1984. That's right.

 

Male sitter:

What was it when you went over?

 

Female sitter:

What's the last year you remember?

 

Fred:

1943, I think it was.

 

Female sitter:

Really? Oh!

 

Male sitter:

'43?

 

Female sitter:

And what's your name by the way?

 

Fred:

Freddy.

 

Female sitter:

Freddy. Ah, we'll remember that.

 

Male sitter:

Alright Freddy.

 

Female sitters:

We'll send you our love.

Yes.

 

Male sitter:

We wish you well anyway.

 

Fred:

But of course, I don't understand this time business.

 

Male sitter:

No. We...we don't actually, but apparently you haven't got any time over there.

 

Fred:

And what... do you all sit here regularly?

 

Male sitter:

Well, we come...

 

Female sitter:

Once or twice a year we gather together.

 

Male sitter:

We come when we can.

 

Fred:

Oh blimey! Once or twice a year?

 

Female sitter:

Well, we have a long way to come.

 

Fred:

I've got a bloody sight further to come than you.

 

[Laughter]

 

Flint: [Coughing loudly]

 

Female sitter:

Well, you've only got to think about it and you're there, aren't you?

 

Fred:

Don't understand it.

 

Male sitter:

No.

 

Fred:

Don't understand it.

 

Male sitter:

Can you not think of a friend who you got on with, Freddy?

 

Fred:

Oh, I got on with a lot of people...

 

Female sitter:

Well, think about them.

 

Fred:

...especially the boys in the...in the unit.

 

Male sitter:

Can you... can you think... think of any that's on your side now?

 

Fred:

Yeah. Quite a number of the boys in the unit, I got on well with...

 

Male sitter:

They're on your side somewhere.

 

Female sitter:

Think about them. They might come and see you and help you.

 

Fred:

'Course, I used to like to go to the pictures a lot, you know.

 

Sitters:

Yes.

 

Fred:

Used to like to... and that, very much you know, in the old days.

 

Female sitter:

No, there's nothing wrong with that is there?

 

Sitters:

No. No.

 

Fred:

Used to like the organ and all that. The old Wurlitzer and all that.

 

Sitters:

Oh yes.

Oh yes.

 

Male sitter:

They don't... don't do that now, Freddy.

 

Fred:

Don't do what?

 

Male sitters:

Have the organ at the pictures.

They don't play that now.

 

Fred:

Don't they?

 

Male sitter:

No. A lot of the picture... picture houses...

 

Fred:

Well I better... I better go 'cause I shall be in trouble.

 

Female sitter:

Why?

 

Fred:

But um... well, you know, you don't want to listen to me. I mean...

 

Female sitter:

We do.

 

Male sitter:

We don't mind listening...we don't mind listening...

 

Fred:

...I don't understand it. But there's a bloody great crowd of people here. Honestly! Talk about a football match!

 

[Laughter]

 

Male sitter:

Anyway Freddy, please think of a friend of yours and they'll come for you.

 

Fred:

All right. What are you trying to do - save me?

 

Sitters:

No, no, no!

 

Male sitter:

Only... only you can do that, Freddy.

 

Flint: [Sniffing]

Fred:

Well, I know that. I found that out. But I'm quite happy, in a way, the way I am, you know. I got me own life here, to some extent...

 

Female sitter:

Come and see us next year.

 

Male sitter:

But if you can meet up with a friend, Freddy you'd probably be a lot happier still.

 

Fred:

Don't worry. I got a few friends over here...

 

Male sitter:

That'll be nice.

 

Fred:

...people I used to know.

 

Male sitters:

Yes.

That's it.

 

Fred:

But they're in much the 'same boat' as me I think, in a way. Well, perhaps they're a bit better off than I am. I don't know.

 

Male sitter:

Well it might help you to progress anyway.

 

Female sitter:

I think things will improve.

 

Fred:

That little Japanese woman, she's a nice little thing, if you like the type.

 

Female sitter:

Is she?

 

Fred:

Yeah.

 

Robert:

Thank you, very much.

 

Male sitter:

That's pleased Bob.

 

Robert:

Well, let me say, the ladies weren't responsible for the war. I understand this problem that you have, but I can only say, you know; the ladies were not responsible for the war. It's a man's country, the men made all the decisions, so my wife really, you know, was not responsible.

 

Fred:

No, I'm not saying anything about your Missus mate. But if you... if you're stupid enough to think that women don't have a hell of a lot to do with what goes on, then you want to watch out. A woman's always behind a man. Cor, starve the crows! I could tell you a lot about my Missus. If I hadn't got rid of... well, I left her. It was the only solution. I was... I mean, it was bloody hell. I mean, she wore the trousers or thought she did. Cor, starve the crows! She gave me a proper... well, I was glad to get in the army - out of it.

 

Male sitter:

Yeah.

 

Fred:

I suppose if you're lucky to meet the right one, it's a different cup of tea.

 

Male sitter:

That's the bit that counts, yeah.

 

Fred:

But she was a real... well. Cor, starve the crows! Of course, I had to get married. I hadn't much choice.

 

Female sitter:

Still, that's all in the past now isn't it?

 

Fred:

Thank God it is, that's all... No, I suppose it's my own fault. I was... well...

 

Male sitter:

Yeah. You can't really blame anybody else, can you?

 

Fred:

Well you can, but, uh...

 

Female sitter:

You can try.

 

[Laughter]

 

Fred:

You're a case you are! 'Course, you're probably happily married. Is that your Missus, ain't it? isn't it?

 

Male sitter:

Yes.

 

Fred:

She looks the sensible sort.

 

Male sitter:

Oh she is.

 

Female sitter:

I hope I am.

 

Flint:

Huh!

 

Fred:

Anyway I better go.

 

Female sitter:

It's been nice talking to you.

 

Fred:

Anyway, all the best.

 

Sitters:

All the best to you!

 

Male sitter:

And you Freddy too.

 

Female sitter:

We'll remember you.

 

[Break in recording]

 

Sitters:

That's all right, Mickey.

That's all right.

 

Mickey:

But I thought we might be able to help him.

 

Sitters:

Yes.

 

Mickey:

Because he's not a bad sort really.

 

Male sitter:

He sounds quite a character Mickey.

 

Mickey:

But he's still living in the past, to some extent.

 

Female sitter:

Yes, he is.

 

Mickey:

He's still very materialistically-minded.

 

Male sitter:

Yes, yes.

 

Mickey:

I'm sorry about the Japanese, uh...thing. I mean, he evidently, um... well, he's got a thing about the war, you see.

 

Robert:

I understand that very well, Mickey.

 

Female sitter:

He didn't really know any better, I don't think. He was, uh...

 

Mickey:

Well, probably not.

 

Male sitter:

But do you think we've helped him?

 

Mickey:

I think you may have done, yes.

 

Male sitter:

Oh, lovely.

 

Female sitter:

Hope so. Hope so.

 

Mickey:

But you know, a lot of people, you can help them to a point, but they got to help themselves, ain't they?

 

Female sitter:

Of course.

 

Male sitter:

Exactly.

 

Female sitter:

Yes.

 

[Break in recording]

 

Frenchman:
It is, uh... always something of a problem for some people. I know that it, uh, must seem at times for you, some of you, very strange. How it is that, uh, a complete stranger who has no claim upon you in any way at all, can come and speak, loud, clear; personality is so like it must have been when he was on Earth.

 

And you wonder why it is, uh, when someone perhaps very near, very dear to you, someone you love - the reason, no doubt in many cases, you know for you to make big effort to make contact with them and they perhaps don't do very well or perhaps don't make any contact at all. It must strike you sometimes as being very odd, very strange.

 

And you know there is a truth. It is love that brings us back to you. Our love for you and your love for us, which is the bridge, as it were, between the two worlds. But it does not alter the fact you know, that there are certain times where, for some people, they find difficulty, they get very emotional, they get very excited, uh...they probably make preparation before they come.

 

When they have the opportunity, they say to themselves, as you would say 'Ah, if I get the opportunity to say something I will say this, I will say that,' you know. But with the emotion of the moment and the effort that has to be made to overcome the difficulties of communication, everything seems to be much more complicated and difficult and their emotional selves... because also the emotion that you feel for them too, sometimes makes it a little more difficult.

 

Now the man who speak to you, he was a strange person in a way. He did not have to bother too much, uh, about, uh, committing himself in any way. He was full of himself, perhaps giving an impression that he did not care very much in a way, but, uh, I think he is a soul who needs assistance and help and... well we bring, sometimes, people along that we know are in need.

 

You know, you may think this is a very strange thing, but sometimes you know, because you are on the material side of life and you have the knowledge of these things, sometimes, not always but sometimes - because certain persons, like this man, are so near the Earth - in a way, you are nearer to them and you can perhaps help them.

 

You don't perhaps always realise this, but when you have your circles and you gather together, sometimes various souls are brought for help. They are given a realisation about life and death and communication and everything. But I think you have helped him. He may not perhaps fully understand yet, but he will.

 

Your being here today, individually and collectively, is a wonderful thing. I know you only see each other, uh, once or twice a year, whatever, you know. You come a long way, huh? But nevertheless, you come together in love, in harmony.

 

Each one of you are anxious to be of service, in some way or another. You are prepared to give of yourselves, to heal the sick and the suffering, if possible. Not necessarily always laying on of the hands, but of the mind and of the spirit. And others, of course, you have the power - as indeed have you all the power - to develop the gifts of the spirit, you know?

 

Each one of you has the power of the spirit within, and when you have a little circle or group, many souls are drawn...

 

Sitter: [Coughing]

 

Frenchman:

...to help you. Each one of you are serving. Each one of you, in some way or another, are doing the work of the spirit. You must not get despondent. You must not get downcast, you know, because sometimes, perhaps, always things don't seem to go quite the way in which you had hoped, huh?

 

But each one of you are being blessed. Each one of you are being helped. And in some way or another you are being guided. And I know that you have a circle with Mr Eade, but you have a closely linked knit group - small though it may be...

 

Female sitter:

Yes.

 

Frenchman:

...but there is great energy...

 

Female sitter:

Yes.

 

Frenchman:

...great power and great love. And I know that each one of you in that group are developing and making contribution, and there will be some reserves, which I think, in due course of time, will more than surprise you.

 

Female sitter:

Thank you.

 

Frenchman:

You must not get despondent. Tell him that we send our best wishes for him. We are sorry he could not come today. But give him our blessing, huh?

 

Female sitter:

Yes, thank you.

 

Frenchman:

Can you hear what I say?

 

Female sitter:

Yes perfectly. Thank you.

 

Frenchman:

Well, when I was on your side I... I had knowledge of this subject, to some extent, but not as much as I would have wished, but nevertheless I was very fortunate.

 

You know, I like to feel that from this side I can help...uh, of course, you know, uh, there are limits perhaps, in a way, I suppose. I don't know - perhaps there are no limits, who knows? But it is not always easy to break the barrier between the two worlds. But, uh...the conditions that prevail when you gather together in harmony and in love; many things are possible.

 

You have done more, perhaps, today than you credit yourselves for. You have given out love of course, as you always do. And you have accepted whoever comes, even though they may not be connected or related to you. And you have given a warm greeting to the gentleman who... well, has not progressed very far as yet, but he will. He will.

 

He did not even realise exactly how long he had been, what you call, 'dead'. Time is illusion you know, with us. We do not have the clock. We do not tell our time by the stars and the moon and the sun rising, as you understand it. We live in a world which is, uh, in some respects not unlike yours.

 

But if you could take out of your world all the ugly things and all the things that create distress and unhappiness. If you could only retain all the lovelier things, the worthwhile things, the things which are truly of the spirit, the beauty and the things which give you so much joy; like nature and trees, forests, mountains, seas, water, all the things... flowers, birds... We have these things too.

 

These are the realities, but they are only a fraction of what we have. We have the reflection or perhaps I should say, you have the reflection.

 

Sitter:

Mmm...

 

Frenchman:

But you know, you've no need to have any fear, no doubts. All is well. No one is lost. Even our friend who come to you, not understanding perhaps as yet. He is not lost. He is going to be more and more conscious of the realities and the beauties. He will be helped and comforted.

 

Anyway, we have to go in a minute, but I just want you to know that we are with you, not far from you, helping you in every way we can. If ever you are in any need - though we cannot always fulfil, perhaps, some of the things we would wish to fulfil - we will do what we can to help you.

 

It's not always easy to do things for a material way, but even so, there are times when you have your problems and your complication and if we can help in any way, we will. But our main interest is in the things that are truly of the spirit.

 

Carry on together in love and in harmony. Know that you are being guided helped and uplifted. And a lot will depend, of course, obviously, upon yourselves, but there is great possibility.

 

Tell our friend, who is not here with us, we send our blessing [to him]. We are sad he could not come.

 

Female sitter:

Yes.

 

Frenchman:

But we send our blessing and our greeting. Now we have to go, but my love and God be with you. Au Revoir.

 

All sitters:

Au Revoir.

Thank you very much.

Bye-bye.

Goodbye.

 

Mickey:

I've got to go.

 

Sitters:

Oh!

Bless you.

 

Male sitter:

What a shame.

 

Female sitter:

Thank you, Mickey.

 

Mickey:

Yeah. I can't help it.

 

Female sitter:

I won't sing any more.

 

Mickey:

Oh, I was only teasing you. I mean, you don't profess to be a singer.

 

Female sitter:

No.

 

Mickey:

And you did it out of a good heart, didn't you?

 

Female sitter:

Because I wanted you to come.

 

Mickey:

Yeah, well. Bye-bye.

 

All sitters:

Bye-bye.

 

Mickey:

Cheerio. God bless.

 

All sitters:

Bye-bye Mickey.

 

Flint:

Bye-bye, love.

 

Female sitters:

God bless you.

Bye-bye.

END OF RECORDING

This transcript was created for the Trust by Lorie McCloud - February 2021

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