Annie Nanji séance
Leslie Flint encourages Dr Nanji when he thinks he hears
a whispering spirit voice and an excited and emotional Annie
begins to communicate with her husband for the very first time.
They discuss the spirit portraits, created by Coral Polge,
of Annie and their two children who died,
and they talk about Dino's links with India.
Read the full transcript below, as you listen...
Present: Leslie Flint, Dr Dinshaw Nanji
Communicators: Annie Nanji, Mickey
Leslie Flint:
There’s
a whisper. I think someone’s trying to speak.
Dinshaw Nanji:
Yes,
yes...
Flint:
It’s
very faint...
Dinshaw:
Yes,
darling I am…I am here. Yes darling. I am here.
Annie Nanji:
I'm
so happy.
Dinshaw:
If
you can speak a little louder.
Annie:
Yes.
I’m here. I’m here.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
I know you are here darling...
Annie:
I'm
close to you every day. Every day I come to you...
Dinshaw:
Yes, I know. Yes darling, I know.
Annie:
Can
you hear me?
Dinshaw:
Yes.
I’m so happy to hear you. I’m so happy to hear you.
Annie:
[Breathing]
D...D...D...D...
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling.
Annie:
...D...
Dinshaw:
Hmm?
Annie:
...D...
Dinshaw:
Yes?
Flint:
Sounds
as if she is saying D-something, I don’t...
Dinshaw:
My, my name is Dino.
Annie:
Dino.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
Dino.
Dinshaw:
Yes my darling.
Annie:
Dino.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
my darling.
Annie:
I’m
here.
Dinshaw:
Uh…
Annie:
I’m
here.
Dinshaw:
Yes darling.
Annie:
Dino.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
I’m
so happy...
Dinshaw:
Yes...
Annie:
...to
speak to you.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
I’m
so happy to speak to you...
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling.
Annie:
Dino,
Dino.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
Dino.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
[Breathing]
Dinshaw:
I'm
ever with you darling.
Annie:
I’m
close to you always.
Dinshaw:
Yes...
Annie:
[Breathing]
Dinshaw:
Yes,
I know.
Annie:
[Breathing]
Mickey:
Mister...?
Dinshaw:
Yes?
Mickey:
If
you ask her questions...
Dinshaw:
Yes?
Mickey:
...that
perhaps she can answer. She’s very excited...
Dinshaw:
Yes
I...
Mickey:
...and
a bit emotional.
Dinshaw:
Yes
I...
Mickey:
She
keeps calling you Dina.
Dr
Nanji:
Yes, that is my pet name she had.
Mickey:
Ah
well, she calls you Dina.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
she’s...it is my pet name. And I, I would love to, uh…love to
hear her, about the children, uh...
Annie:
Yes.
I'm with the children. I have the children with me today.
Dinshaw:
Yes?
Flint:
She
has the children with her today she says.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
and… I’m so happy to know everything about them.
Annie:
How
is Mamma?
Flint:
Something
about mother she’s saying. Mamma.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
yes!
Annie:
All
my love. All my love.
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling, I know.
Annie:
Everything
is the same. You kept everything much the same in the apartment.
Dinshaw:
Yes?
Annie:
Everything
is the same. I come to you every night.
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling.
Annie:
You
know, we’re together a lot. We are never separated.
Dinshaw:
No. I know that dear. I can hear you tapping.
Annie:
Yes.
Dinshaw:
I
hear you tapping in the morning. I hear you tapping in the evening
before I go to sleep.
Annie:
And
the music.
Dinshaw:
Hmm?
Annie:
The
music.
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling.
Annie:
I
listen to the music.
Dinshaw:
Yeah...
Flint:
She
says she listens to the music.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
I know that, yes.
Annie:
My
music.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
I know.
Annie:
Yes.
[Breathing]
[Pause]
Mickey:
Um...I’m
trying to help.
Dinshaw:
Yes...
Mickey:
It's
all...it’s very new for her.
Dinshaw:
Yes...
Mickey:
She’s
very excited...
Dinshaw:
Yes...
Mickey:
…and
a little bit emotional.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
darling...
[Pause]
Mickey:
She’s a
wonderful soul.
[Pause]
Dinshaw:
Is it
possible for the children to speak to me, Mickey?
Mickey:
Uh...I’ll
see. I’ll try. Just a moment, sir...
Dinshaw:
Yes...
Mickey:
I’m
trying to get things...hold on...
Dinshaw:
If
she can rest a little.
[Pause]
Dinshaw:
My
daughter’s name is Sybilla and my son’s name is Peter.
[Pause]
Annie:
I
don't know...perhaps....Did you say again?
I've brought the
children with me.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
Sybilla...
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
...and
Peter.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
It’s
so wonderful speaking to you. I wish I could speak louder. But
perhaps when I’m more used to it, I may be able to.
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling.
Annie:
...but
it's very strange.
Dinshaw:
I
understand.
Annie:
It's very
strange.
Dinshaw:
Yeah.
Annie:
All
I want is you to be happy and to know that one day we shall be
together again.
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling. I know that. I know.
Annie:
We
expect Mother to come soon.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
yes. I know that darling.
Annie:
Don’t
move away. Stay where you are.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
I understand. I will.
Annie:
Don't move
away.
Dinshaw:
Yes. I will darling.
Annie:
Everything
is the same...
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
What
about the painting?
Dinshaw:
I
have taken them with me and I am going to...uh...have you just on top
of my bed and the children on each side of you.*
Annie:
Yes,
that's nice.
Dinshaw:
That
will be nice.
Annie:
I
am so happy about the pictures.
Dinshaw:
Yes...uh…
Annie:
And
now I am talking to you. I'm so thrilled and so excited!
Dinshaw:
[Laughing]
Yes darling, I...
Annie:
I
want you to know I’m happy.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
I’m
very happy.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
I
love you very much. We shall be together again one day.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
we will soon be together darling, yes. The time goes very quickly.
Annie:
Don’t
worry, don’t worry.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Time goes very quickly.
Annie:
[Unintelligible]
Dinshaw:
I
feel you are with me every second...
Mickey:
She’s
trying to speak in some other language.
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling. She may talk to me in Swedish.
Mickey:
I
think she’s speaking in Swedish or something. It’s not English
now.
Dinshaw:
No.
Mickey:
Um…
Annie:
[Unintelligible]
Dinshaw:
No.
Mickey:
Have
you any connections at all with India?
Dinshaw:
Any
connection...?
Mickey:
...with
India at all?
Dinshaw:
No.
I have broken off connections and I am now become a Swedish citizen.
Mickey:
Yes,
but have you any background or connections?
Dinshaw:
Oh,
yes I have. I myself was born in India.
Mickey:
Oh,
well that’s why she’s talking about India, then.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
I was born in India.
Mickey:
Because
at one time, you were linked with India…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
...when
you were a very young man...
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…because
there are some people here who are related to you…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…who
were born and lived in India.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
that’s it.
Mickey:
They
are relations of yours…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…because
although you live in Sweden and your Swedish nationality…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…your
background is India.
Dinshaw:
Yeah,
that’s right.
Mickey:
Is
that right?
Dinshaw:
Yes,
perfectly.
Mickey:
Because
they told me about it.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
that’s perfectly right, Mickey. And, eh, my wife also had come to
India for many years.
Mickey:
Yes.
Well, this is all very interesting because I don’t know you…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
...and
have never met you.
Dinshaw:
Mmm...
Mickey:
But
I only know what I am told to tell you.
Dinshaw:
Yes...
Mickey:
And,
they tell me that, um, you have this background of India…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
And,
um, also they’re some people here who, who will connect with Delhi…
Dinshaw:
Delhi?
Mickey:
Yes.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
Who
were relations of yours that your wife has met over here.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
yes.
Mickey:
And,
um... just a moment. I don’t know if you’re interested in Gandhi,
are you?
Dinshaw:
Gandhi?
Mickey:
Yes.
Dinshaw:
Uh.
Yes, uh, as a, a…
Mickey:
Well,
all I can tell you sir, is what I am told to tell you…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…and
that is, that there is a gentleman here who I think is your father…
Dinshaw:
Uh-huh.
Mickey:
…and
I think he had great admiration for Gandhi.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
Because
they met over here.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
And,
um, your wife, of course, is the predominant person who comes to you,
obviously.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
But,
there are obviously other people…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…relations
of yours…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…and
relations of your wife, you see,
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…and
your children.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
And
they’re all come together in love and affection...
Dinshaw:
Ah…
Mickey:
…with
a great band of...you know...of, of love for you.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
God bless them.
Mickey:
Um…um…do
you mix up things and make things in tubes…
Dinshaw:
Yes,
yes…
Mickey:
...and
bottles and things.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
exactly! [Laughing]
Mickey:
Are
you, sort of, in a chemist shop or what?
Dinshaw:
No,
no.
Mickey:
Because
I see you in a laboratory and I see you with all sorts of weights and
scales…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…and
bottles and tubes and…
Dinshaw:
I,
I am working in a university in Sweden.
Mickey:
Do
you teach at all?
Dinshaw:
Uh,
no, I don’t teach, but I do research.
Mickey:
You
demonstrate or something?
Dinshaw:
No,
I do research.
Mickey:
Well,
all I know is that your wife says that they’re still interested in
what you’re doing and helping you.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
And,
um, this brother of yours, he’s very near you.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
He
comes to you a lot…
Dinshaw:
Ah,
ha?
Mickey:
…in
the laboratory.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
yes. [Pause]
Has he any message for his wife?
Mickey:
Well,
he says that he would like to contact her, but he doesn’t think
she’ll believe you.
Dinshaw:
She…?
Mickey:
She
doesn’t believe, does she?
Dinshaw:
Yeah,
she doesn’t believe, yeah...
Mickey:
He
says, 'What is the point?'...
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
She
will not believe...
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…if
you tell her.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
you’re right.
Mickey:
But
he says he is often with her.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
uh, you’re right.
Mickey:
Is
there another man in her life?
Dinshaw:
Uh...in
the wife's life?
Mickey:
Yeah.
Dinshaw:
I
believe...
Mickey:
Well,
he says she has interest in another direction…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
But
he quite understands because she’s been very lonely.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
I understand.
Mickey:
Who’s
Rani?
Dinshaw:
Uh,
what name, please?
Mickey:
Rani.
Dinshaw:
Vani?
Mickey:
Sounds
like Vani or Rani.
Dinshaw:
Rani?
Mickey:
Perhaps
I haven’t got it correct. Anyway, it’s your wife that matters
most.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
exactly. Oh, she’s wonderful.
[Pause]
Annie:
Hello?
Da, Da, Da...
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling.
Annie:
Da,
Da...
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
Dada...
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling. I know. I am here.
Annie:
[Unintelligible]
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling.
Annie:
I
wish I could speak better.
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling.
Annie:
I’m
trying so very hard.
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling.
Annie:
But
I love you. You know I am so close to you.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
I
am very near…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
…everyday.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
That’s wonderful.
Flint:
[Loud
coughing]
Dinshaw:
I feel that, my dear. I feel
that.
Annie:
Thank
you for the roses. Thank you for the roses.
Dinshaw:
Oh,
don’t mention it darling. I know you love flowers.
Annie:
The
children are here.
Dinshaw:
Hmm.
I know, yes. I know they'll love them too. I think the children are
really wonderful, now I have seen them...and God bless them always.
Both of them.
Mickey:
Your
wife is really interested in what appears to be a painting of
herself.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
Em…but,
it’s…I don't, somehow, think it's the one you're thinking about.
Dinshaw:
Yes?
Mickey:
Have
you got a large picture of your wife...coloured?
Dinshaw:
Ah…
Mickey:
In
colour?
Dinshaw:
I
have one, uh, completed by a psychic artist this week, uh....
Mickey:
Well,
it is in colour?
Dinshaw:
It
is in colour, yes.
Mickey:
Because
she says that you made some comment, uh, that you thought it was very
good and you’re very pleased with it.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
But
there are certain differences that, at first, rather surprised you.
Dinshaw:
Yes
exact...
Mickey:
She
says, for instance, her hair.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
But
she says, now her hair is long.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
I, I, I, I was expecting...
Mickey:
And
also she’s talking about pale blue.
Dinshaw:
Pale
blue?
Mickey:
Yes.
Dinshaw:
Uh…
Mickey:
She’s
talking about wearing something…
Dinshaw:
Hmm…
Mickey:
…uh, that is pale blue.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
Uh,
this is a dress…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…which
you have got, I believe.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
yes.
Mickey:
Um…she
was very fond of clothes, was she?
Dinshaw:
Very
fond of clothes and very fond of...
Mickey:
Jewellery?
Dinshaw:
Jewellery
and everything nice about her.
Mickey:
She
was a very attractive lady, wasn’t she?
Dinshaw:
Yes,
she was.
Mickey:
And,
uh, why is she talking about the pearls?
Dinshaw:
Pearls?
Mickey:
Yes,
pearls.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
she had some jewellery with pearls...
Mickey:
No,
I think this is some special thing.
Dinshaw:
Uh-huh.
Mickey:
To
do with an earring was it? Or earrings?
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Earring and also a ring, uh, in pearls and also a necklace in pearls.
Mickey:
She
loved pearls.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
And,
she says you still have all her bits and pieces…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…all
the lovely things and you won’t let anyone touch them.
Dinshaw:
No,
I cannot part with them, dear.
Mickey:
She
says that one day somebody will, of course, have them.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
But,
um, she says, have you made arrangements so that when you come here
that they will…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
…go
to people?
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
You
know...
Dinshaw:
Yes,
they’ll be taken care of, yes.
Mickey:
Oh.
Well, she seems to think that you won’t be coming yet a while.
Dinshaw:
No?
Mickey:
You’ve
got to go…wait a few years yet, you know.
Dinshaw:
[Laughing]
I thought it would be next year.
Mickey:
Oh,
no.
Dinshaw:
No?
Mickey:
No.
Um…I think that you have got to stay a little longer to do certain
spiritual work.
Dinshaw:
Oh,
my dear. You mean…how many years? [Laughing]
Mickey:
Well,
I can’t say. It’s not for me to say.
Dinshaw:
No…
Mickey:
But,
um, they don’t seem to think that you will be coming yet a while,
you know. Were you together for over 40 years?
Dinshaw:
Yes.**
Mickey:
Why
does she...45 was it?
Dinshaw:
She
was, uh, about 53 when she passed away. Today she will be about 56,
57.
Mickey:
Well...she
says that, um, every hour, every day, every month and every year was
precious, because you loved each other so dearly.
Dinshaw:
Perfect.
Mickey:
And
she says that nothing could ever come between you and she always
wants you to know that her love will always surmount all
difficulties…
Dinshaw:
Yeah.
Mickey:
…and
that the time will come when you will be together. But she says you
do come over during your sleep.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
You
leave your body and do you remember sometimes being with her?
Dinshaw:
Yes!
I do!
Mickey:
’Cause
she says she hopes that you can recapture the memory of your
happiness together over here, during your sleep.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
yes. Uh…I feel that…
Mickey:
Yes.
Dinshaw:
…and
I hope I will get a vision of her…
Mickey:
But
there is a very special anniversary that comes in a few week’s
time.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
that is her birthday on the nineteenth.
Mickey:
Because
she’s laughing about the...November, isn’t it?
Dinshaw:
In
November.
Mickey:
The
nineteenth?
Dinshaw:
Nineteenth.
Correct.
Mickey:
Yes,
she says November the nineteenth is her anniversary.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
But
she says that the years come and go, but she says there’s no age
here. She is young and she’s now like she was when she was twenty…
Dinshaw:
Ah…
Mickey:
…to
look at, you know?
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
And
that’s another thing about that picture. She says that she’s
younger.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
that is true. That is perfectly true. And, uh, I like…
END OF RECORDING
* Paintings = the spirit portraits of Annie Nanji and their children, drawn by psychic artist Coral Polge.
** Dinshaw mishears Mickey
at this point and Mickey misunderstands. Dinshaw and Annie were not together for 40 years.
This transcript was kindly created for the Trust by Mary Beth Mank - August 2017