Annie and Dinshaw Nanji
Annie Nanji séance
Between 1970 and 1983, a retired doctor of chemistry, Dr Dinshaw R. Nanji
of Birmingham University, visited Leslie Flint twice a year for private sittings,
travelling from his home in Gothenburg, Sweden.
At almost every sitting he was able to communicate directly with his wife
Annie Ottilia Nanji, who had died in 1966.
In this recording Annie asks Leslie Flint directly,
if he can find the time for another appointment for her husband!
Read the full transcript below, as you listen...
Present: Leslie Flint, Dr Dinshaw Nanji
Communicators: Annie Nanji, Mickey
Leslie
Flint:
This séance was recorded on May the 3rd 1971. Medium Leslie Flint.
Mickey:
And how are you today?
Dinshaw:
I
am very well, thank you. I’m very happy to hear you.
Mickey:
I’m very pleased to see you. I always look forward to your visits
because, well, you’re such a nice gentleman and your lady is such a
lovely lady and there’s such a wonderful, beautiful bond of love
and affection between you which...well, it - it’s so marvellous
really because if everybody had this wonderful bond that you two
have, communication would be much simpler.
Because it is the wonderful bond of love and affection that makes the link between you so much easier. Whereas sometimes, for some people, it’s a terrible struggle - not that they haven’t got a bond of affection, of course they have, but yours is something like a 'perfect union of souls' and it’s very rare.
There’s no doubt about it that you and your Mrs., you had to be...come together. It was destined and that you’re like twin souls, you know. You, you, you’re perfect for each other. And you have gained experience and you have progressed, um, by knowing each other. When you come here and you're reunited, it will be marvellous for you both.
Dinshaw:
Oh,
wonderful!
Mickey:
You see, age has got nothing to do with it.
Dinshaw:
No.
Mickey:
I mean, um, some people seem to think that sometimes age can
make a big difference, but love conquers all things, don’t it?
Dinshaw:
Exactly,
yes.
Mickey:
You’re quite a character, aren’t you?
Dinshaw:
[Laughing]
Flint:
[Coughing]
Dinshaw:
What
range?
Mickey:
Well, if I was to go into all that I’d be here all the morning.
Flint:
[Laughing]
[Coughing]
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
You going to Harrods* today?
Dinshaw:
Beg
pardon?
Mickey:
Are you going to Harrods?
Dinshaw:
No.
I, I had thought of going to Harrods, but, uh, the…
Mickey:
Your wife says something about, it crossed your mind about going
into Harrods to see about this business, but, um…evidently you’re
not going to bother then?
Dinshaw:
No,
because they have returned the item.
Mickey:
Oh well, then there’s not a lot of point in going then, is
there?
Dinshaw:
No,
exactly.
Mickey:
Well she seems rather disappointed about this, because she says
that she cannot understand why…
Dinshaw:
Yeah…
Mickey:
…it hasn’t sold.
Dinshaw:
Yeah…
Mickey:
But it may be it’s such a sort of, um, expensive item that, uh,
a lot of people are not in a position to buy it.
Dinshaw:
Yeah.
That is possible.
Mickey:
Anyway, why worry? You manage, don’t you?
Dinshaw:
But she has told me that it’s to be sold in this month of May.
So I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Mickey:
She has told you that.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Mickey:
Oh well, if she’s told you that I expect it will be.
Dinshaw:
But
I don’t know how it will be.
Annie:
Dada?
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling! I’m so happy to hear you!
Annie:
I’m so sorry; I, I’m so long in coming today. I have been
very busy.
Dinshaw:
Yes darling. This is my, la-last visit this time.
Annie:
I know. I am so sad…
Dinshaw:
No
darling…
Annie:
…because
it is the last time, you know? I have looked forward for it so much
to come and talk to you today.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
I am a little disappointed about Harrods.
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling, I…
Annie:
I was hoping that they would be able to do something…
Dinshaw:
Yes. But I, I hear they returned the item and I don’t know if
it will be sold this month.
Annie:
Well, I have a very strong idea it will be sold this month.
Dinshaw:
Oh.
Annie:
I hope so.
Dinshaw:
Well, I keep my
fingers crossed darling.
Annie:
Well...oh it is so stupid, you know? I get so excited and I
shouldn’t, huh?
Dinshaw:
No
darling.
Annie:
And when I get terribly excited I find that I cannot think
clearly...I must be calm…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
…and placid, too.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Exactly darling. Yes darling.
Annie:
But when I come and talk to you, I, I feel so very close to you…
Dinshaw:
No,
but you…
Annie:
Of course, I am always close to you. But when you come
here...
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
...it is that I have to come even closer, you know…to make
myself heard.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
…and that means that I am very much, I don’t know how to put
it in words....I think to myself all these things that concern
you, material things…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
They are not so important.
Dinshaw:
No darling…
Annie:
They are important to you…and because of that, I take an
interest.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
exactly sweetheart.
Annie:
But, uh! It is not important.
Dinshaw:
No
darling. I know.
Annie:
What is important is you and me...
Dinshaw:
I like to have…
Annie:
…and
when we are together.
Dinshaw:
Yes,
I like to have everything in order, so…
Annie:
I know.
Dinshaw:
...nothing is…
Annie:
But you have got everything in order.
Dinshaw:
[Laughing] Yes, but...
Annie:
Practically, I cannot think what else you could do to...to, to,
to, to...
Dinshaw:
Yes…but
there's so many...
Annie:
You are very methodical, you know? You do everything very
well, you know. Very good. You don’t leave much undone, huh?
Dinshaw:
Thank you. Thank you darling.
Annie:
Even everything in the apartment…is in order, you know?
Dinshaw:
Yes darling.
Annie:
And everything is arranged.
Dinshaw:
I feel that you are…
Annie:
Your will you have made...
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
...everything.
Dinshaw:
I
feel you are helping me, even there.
Annie:
Of course, I am.
Dinshaw:
Yes, I know that.
Annie:
I try to help you in everything I possibly can…
Dinshaw:
I feel you are helping…
Annie:
…so that you shall not have too much to worry you, you know?
Ah, I don’t know. I think you live much more with me than on Earth…
Dinshaw:
I do darling.
Annie:
Mentally and in every way, you know.
Dinshaw:
Yes, I do.
Annie:
You do everything that you have to do...because you must do
it…but, at the same time your thoughts and your mind is constantly
with me.
Dinshaw:
Yes, I know dear. I’m glad you notice.
Annie:
I think it is a very good idea if we experiment, you know…
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling…
Annie:
…with the tape recorder.
Dinshaw:
I, I will…
Annie:
I feel sure it has great possibility…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
And perhaps it is that we will be able to, to manage to
communicate with each other by it. I can impinge, how you say, my
thoughts upon it, so that you receive my voice like I speak to you
now.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
We can try, anyway.
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling.
Annie:
I feel it has great possibility.
Dinshaw:
Yes
I will. I’m going to - at different times; in the morning, in the
evening, uh, and try about fifteen minutes at a time and see if we
can get anything through.
Annie:
I have been in contact, you know, with Madame
Florey...
Dinshaw:
Yeah.
Annie:
…and also her husband.
Dinshaw:
About her boy?
Annie:
Her husband.
Dinshaw:
Yes?
Annie:
You know?
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
I have discovered that this, uh, Robert...
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
Robert Florey...
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
...is a second cousin.
Dinshaw:
He's
a...?
Annie:
Second cousin.
Dinshaw:
Oh, second cousin!
Annie:
And she may not know very much about him, if anything. But, ah,
it is a very interesting because I have made a, you know…
Dinshaw:
Contact.
Annie:
…contact
with her husband. You know, he is, uh, bury...buried in Switzerland?
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
Did you know?
Dinshaw:
Yes, yes.
Annie:
She has been to Switzerland.
Dinshaw:
Yes, that’s right. That’s where the ashes were buried in the
family...family grave.
Annie:
She took the ashes to bury them in Switzerland.
Dinshaw:
That’s right!
Annie:
Because he has told me that she have him cremated and took the
ashes back to the family vault.
Dinshaw:
That’s right.
Annie:
You know? And he is not there...
Dinshaw:
No.
Annie:
...of course. He is constantly with her. But he is a bit
concerned about the boy.
Dinshaw:
Ah-hah.
Annie:
Do you know anything about it?
Dinshaw:
No darling. About, eh, Florey's boy?
Annie:
She…I don’t know. She, ah, he says that he has been a little
concerned. But he is very Interested you know, because he would like
you to make contact with Madame Florey.
Dinshaw:
Yes I will. When I go back, I will write to her.
Annie:
Write to her…
Dinshaw:
Yes…
Annie:
…and see if she will listen, you know?
Dinshaw:
Yes, I will…
Annie:
Because it may be that she will not, but, eh, he says he is
constantly with her and he’s trying to help her, because she is a
very unsettled at the moment and she does not know quite what to do.
And he thinks that it is better for her to...to stay where she is for
the moment.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
…if possible, you know?
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
Do you know? You have lost a little contact, eh, you have a
letter you’ve written…she has written to you…
Dinshaw:
Yes…
Annie:
…but, um, you have not seen her for some time?
Dinshaw:
No, no…
Annie:
Ah, you know…it was...how many years now is it, since we met
them? Quite a number of years, huh?
Dinshaw:
Yes…I
think about…
Annie:
Seven?
Dinshaw:
Yes, six or seven years.
Annie:
I
think it must be about six or seven years. I don’t remember. Time
is always problem, you know. With us it is always difficult to be
sure of time. But it is that I feel we have been so helped, you and
me, you know?
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
We have been so lucky! We have been so fortunate, you know, in
being able to communicate with each other. We have such wonderful
realisation, you know, this great truth that life is not, you know,
continuous - not the end, you know. That it is good for us to help
other people.
Dinshaw:
Of
course.
Annie:
And I think if we could help her, because she is very sad, you
know.
Dinshaw:
Yes, I understand…
Annie:
And, uh, if we can help her.
Dinshaw:
Yes. I will.
Annie:
How many years now is it since India? Oh!
Dinshaw:
Oh…
Annie:
Many years now. I forget. Time is big problem.
Dinshaw:
About five, six years darling.
Annie:
Six years is it?
Dinshaw:
Yes. I don’t think of India
any more.
Annie:
No, I know you don’t think of it, but I shall always be
grateful to India because of you!
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling.
Annie:
You know? As a matter of fact, I have met a number of people here
that are connected with India. People connected with you a long time
ago, you know? I have met people; relations and friends, that I did
not know myself, but are connected with you. And, you know, I often
go to see my Mama.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
You know, she is not very good.
Dinshaw:
She's
not good, no.
Annie:
No, but of course she is old now.
Dinshaw:
Yes, of course.
Annie:
And…uh,
but she is being looked after. Perhaps one day you will see her
again, huh?
Dinshaw:
Yes,
I will.
Annie:
What shall we talk about, uh? Oh, I think and think and think and
I think what shall I say? And then I think, oh, this and that, you
know? But I just feel that I want to tell the world, I want everyone
to know, and I...that’s why I feel so sad for Madame Florey, if we
can help her, you know?
Dinshaw:
Yes. I’ll certainly help her.
Annie:
But she has her problems, you know? And…
Dinshaw:
But
her children are married and they are settled...
Annie:
I know, I know, but even so, she has problems which you don’t
know anything about. And, perhaps, who knows, if she will show
interest in this, not only will it help her, but I think it could
change her outlook.
Dinshaw:
Yeah.
Annie:
She’s lonely, you know?
Dinshaw:
Yeah.
Annie:
Like you are lonely, uh?
Dinshaw:
Yes, of course.
Annie:
But you are not so lonely because you know of this and we
got communicate and you receive my thoughts in the apartment...flat,
you know.
Dinshaw:
Yes, that’s right.
Annie:
Oh, goodness me! I’m so happy, I'm so happy!
Dinshaw:
Thank you darling. It makes me happy to know that.
Annie:
Do you sometimes feel me put my hand through your hair?
Dinshaw:
Yes, but, ah…
Annie:
You don’t know if it is so.
Dinshaw:
I
don’t know it is, you see…
Annie:
Well, sometimes I...when you are quiet, you know, I come to you
and I put my hand in your hair and sometimes I put my hand in yours.
And, one morning you wake up and I feel sure you must have known I
was there and I felt sure that you must have felt my hand.
Dinshaw:
When you do tapping, I always feel…
Annie:
You hear and know.
Dinshaw:
I, I feel in the evening before I go to bed, you have come to
take…
Annie:
Yeah, yeah, yeah…
Dinshaw:
...take me with you.
Annie:
I do! I do!
Dinshaw:
[Laughing]
Annie:
And
you come here at night with me and we are together…
Dinshaw:
Yes…
Annie:
…just like...but you kiss me good night every night!
Dinshaw:
Yes, I do.
Annie:
I know!
Dinshaw:
I can’t sleep without it.
Annie:
I know!
Dinshaw:
And, I kiss you good night, uh...good morning, when I leave the
home.
Annie:
I know, I know.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
And you…ah! But you know, when you go out of the flat in the
morning, I sometimes go with you and walk along the street.
Dinshaw:
Yes, I feel that.
Annie:
And
sometimes I come to you in the laboratory.
Dinshaw:
Yes, I feel that darling!
Annie:
You are...you know, sometimes when you are a little puzzled,
perhaps, or something...I try to help you.
Dinshaw:
I
feel you are helping me to open the book and put the right page in my
hand.
Annie:
I do! I sometimes find for you the exact page.
Dinshaw:
Again and again I feel that. Yes.
Annie:
But, you know there have been changes.
Dinshaw:
Ah-ha.
Annie:
But I suppose there have to be.
Dinshaw:
Changes in where darling?
Annie:
Laboratory.
Dinshaw:
Oh, I see.
Annie:
I told you the other day, but you did not seem...to quite
understand what I said to you.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
Thank you for the flowers by the way.
Dinshaw:
Oh darling, it’s...it’s a pleasure to me.
Annie:
It will soon be July.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
Anniversary.
Dinshaw:
I wish sometimes I had a garden to play in.
Annie:
Oh, perhaps it may be that later you may have it. I don’t think
perhaps, eh…I don’t know. Sometimes I think perhaps you will make
a move. And yet I think somehow you will never give up the flat,
because it is part of me, you know?
Dinshaw:
Exactly. I don’t want…
Annie:
And I think you say to yourself sometimes, even if it were
possible for you to move, you would not do it because 'I am the
flat', you know?
Dinshaw:
No, exactly.
Annie:
Everything is exactly the same; it is full of me, uh?
Dinshaw:
Exactly that.
Annie:
And if you move, it would not be the same for you. That is why I
think you will stay there, you know?
Dinshaw:
Yes. I will stay there till the end darling.
Annie:
I think so.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
I wonder how long I’ve got to wait for you.
Dinshaw:
[Laughing]
Annie:
You are so fit and healthy! ...I think you are going to live many
years.
Dinshaw:
Mamma don’t say that! [Laughing]
Annie:
I hope you won’t. That is being perhaps naughty, but I love you
so much I want you to come Dada, to me. But I know that time…you
have to fulfil your time on Earth.
Dinshaw:
Yes darling.
Annie:
And after all, perhaps in that time, who knows? Perhaps you can
do a lot to help other people…and give them comfort like you have
had from me...and that is what we must think about.
Dinshaw:
Exactly.
Annie:
Perhaps
one day you will write a book, uh? And who knows? This business that
we have talk about, perhaps a feeling…
Dinshaw:
I think...I think if you can do the tape recording for me, it
would be a very, very good, uh, material for a book.
Annie:
Well, everything depends on so many things. We must be patient…
Dinshaw:
Yeah, exactly.
Annie:
…and realise it will take its time, you know...and I will do
everything I can, you know? Everything!
Dinshaw:
I also remember that wavelength you have given me, 707. You see?
Annie:
Ya, ya…but, eh, oh, dear-oh-dear. There is so many people here
today. More than usual.
Dinshaw:
Why?
Annie:
I don’t know. I think it is that be…
I, I know why in a way, because of us and because, um, you know, it
is that people are interested and they are very good too - friends.
Some of them, of course, they come with me. But, a
lot of strangers here today. I think they are attracted, you know,
because they know this possibility of communication, you know? And I
think that it attract them and they like to stand and listen and
perhaps they can, perhaps, who knows, learn something? And perhaps
they will have an opportunity, later to talk to their own people.
Dinshaw:
Exactly.
Annie:
I would like to feel so. Ah, there is so much sadness with people
here, when they cannot find a way to get in touch, you know.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
They long to speak to their loved ones. They love to tell them
they are alive and well and happy. And, uh, well, it is very sad when
you think there are millions of people in your world who don’t
know, and don’t understand. That is where we must try to help them
on both sides, uh?
Dinshaw:
Um-hum. Yes.
Annie:
Ah…my anniversary is soon here, huh?
Dinshaw:
Darling?
Annie:
Yeah?
Dinshaw:
Your anniversary is in July. That is…
Annie:
I know...
Dinshaw:
…two months from now.
Annie:
July?
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
Oh.
Dinshaw:
July the
fourteenth.
Annie:
You will come? Oh, perhaps you cannot come.
Dinshaw:
No darling. I, I, I could come but, eh…
Annie:
But what?
Dinshaw:
Mr...Mr.
Flint is busy with American, eh, people.
Annie:
Oh, but surely he can find time for us!
Dinshaw:
Ya…
Flint:
Oh dear! [Laughs]
Dinshaw:
I
will ask...
Annie:
Surely! Mr. Flint?
Flint:
Yes
of course I will. I will make every effort.
Annie:
I am so pleased if you would!
Dinshaw:
Oh, yes!
Annie:
It means so much to us! Does it not, Dada?
Dinshaw:
Yes darling.
Annie:
Ah, perhaps it is expensive for you, huh?
Dinshaw:
No, no! Expenditure doesn’t matter!
Annie:
Ahhh…
Dinshaw:
It
not much expenditure to me.
Annie:
No?
Dinshaw:
Because I am…
Annie:
It is, eh…
Dinshaw:
I am only…
Annie:
Perhaps I am being selfish?
Dinshaw:
No
darling, no, no!
Annie:
It is so wonderful and I feel so...oh, I don’t know. Of course,
I can come and see you every day, and I do.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
And I know receive my thoughts and impressions and everything. But
when I can talk to you like this, this is ve…oh it is so wonderful,
you know. I can’t think how, how people manage to live without it.
Dinshaw:
Yes
darling.
Annie:
Ahh...When people are so sad and lonely and unhappy. And they
don’t understand and they grieve and we are so blessed, you and me.
Dinshaw:
Yes, I know. God has…God has been wonderful.
Annie:
God has been very good to us. One day I wonder if, oh, I don’t
know. You know, there are many things I don’t understand and that
perhaps I will learn, huh?
Dinshaw:
What darling?
Annie:
Oh, I don’t know. You know. God. I don’t understand. I know
that there is a great force,
you
know? A great power...and I’m sure it is love, which is God, you
know?
Dinshaw:
Yes, exactly.
Annie:
I think it is energy and vitality. Life. This is God.
Dinshaw:
God is love, you know?
Annie:
I
know. I think that when we are on Earth we, when we think about
religion and all that, I think perhaps we have a very strange idea.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
Now I see so differently and everything is so beautiful. When you
come here there will be for you, oh, a beautiful home. Everything that
we love all the little things that we collected, there will be the
copy, you know. The replica. Everything. And we shall have the things
that we liked around us.
Dinshaw:
Yes darling.
Annie:
I have got a dog!
Dinshaw:
Ah…isn’t our dog, uh, with you darling?
Annie:
Of course!
Dinshaw:
Huh?
Annie:
I...of course!
Dinshaw:
You know our big, black dog?
Annie:
I have got here. I tell you. And the photograph you have got,
with me…
Dinshaw:
Yes, yes, yes…
Annie:
…of the dog in the garden…
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
You know?
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
That is here with me.
Dinshaw:
Oh,
that’s lovely!
Annie:
And, um, also, you do not remember Polly.
Dinshaw:
Remember?
Annie:
Polly.
Dinshaw:
Paulie?
Annie:
No. Do you remember? Perhaps you forget...
Dinshaw:
Yes...?
Annie:
A long time ago…
Dinshaw:
Yes...?
Annie:
…somewhere where we go and there was a parrot…
Dinshaw:
Ah-hah! Yes, yes, yes, yes!
Annie:
You know?
Dinshaw:
Yes, papegoja.
Annie:
That is the word!
Dinshaw:
Haha!
Annie:
But I think of it in the English, because always we'd speak in
English.
Dinshaw:
Yes darling!
Annie:
And, uh, the parrot is here, did you know?
Dinshaw:
Ahh! I’m very glad to hear it.
Annie:
Ah! It is so funny. [Laughing] But people don’t know, you see?
They think animals have no...no soul, no life. They think they are of
a lower origin, you know.
Dinshaw:
Darling...
Annie:
Well,
they are still little people in a way. They're perhaps not so
advanced in some respects, but they have intensity of feeling, they
have emotions, they sense things much more than human beings. And
here they have life.
Dinshaw:
Darling? Is it a grey parrot with the red tail?
Annie:
Of course!
Dinshaw:
Ahh!
Annie:
You know, the one I did tell you about.
Dinshaw:
Yes, yes, yes, yes! Aha!
Annie:
Long time ago.
Dinshaw:
Oh they're lovely.
Annie:
…you
remember?
Dinshaw:
Yes. That talks?
Annie:
Of course. But here…oh! Another thing I must tell you. Over
here we don’t have to talk, you know? We can communicate by
thought. You know, on Earth animals communicate by telepathy, by
thought force, you know? Vibration. Here we do the same. I can now
communicate…well, I do it with you.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
I come to you and in the flat, you know, out at work sometimes.
And even if you’re walking in the street or in the park, I can
communicate by thought. You receive my impression, you receive my
thoughts. Oh, I am so happy, Dada! I can’t
tell you what this means to me! If only we can make people
understand, uh? It would be marvellous!
Dinshaw:
Darling...darling we will if we collect a lot of tapes together.
Annie:
Oh dear, oh dear. I am so excited! I think in English, I think in
French, I think in Swedish.
Dinshaw:
...Mr. Flint was telling me that he played parts of the first
tape he had and the people were so…
Annie:
I know.
Dinshaw:
...so moved.
Annie:
I think this is wonderful, because it means that with this
recording, you know - the tape as you call it…
Dinshaw:
Yes…
Annie:
…people can hear for themselves the truth and the reality
of...that love conquers death. You know? This is the great thing that
we must tell the world: that love conquers death. There is no death
only that which seems so. There’s only death when people think in
that way.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
The reality of life continues. There is no death. I am more vital
now. I am more alive than ever I was. I am younger and more full of
gaiety and happiness. No one need think death is miserable. We don’t
have the long face and the unhappiness; we have the joy in our
hearts!
Dinshaw:
That’s right!
Annie:
And it is the love and the joy that we share together!
Dinshaw:
Exactly darling.
Annie:
Oh, wonderful. I speak for you...with you, uh? That like this we
can commune. If only we could make everyone know. It makes everything
so wonderful because people talk about life to come. They, you know
they follow the teaching of Christ and they go to the church and the
Kirk and all that, you know? But, uh, oh!
They don’t understand it!
Dinshaw:
The reality.
Annie:
They don’t understand it. Their eyes are blind and their are
ears are stopped up. They don’t hear. But we know and we must tell
the world.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
You and me and others like us, you know?
Dinshaw:
I will yes.
Annie:
We must tell the world of the great reality of life continuous,
uh?
Dinshaw:
Yes,
that's right dear.
Annie:
Oh! Goodness me! I could put my arms around you and I could hug
and hug and hug and hug and kiss you darling!
Dinshaw:
So do I.
Annie:
I just want you always to know that my love is so…ahh!
Dinshaw:
I stand in front of your picture and…
Annie:
I know, you don’t have to tell me. I know!
Dinshaw:
You know…
Annie:
You stand in front of the picture and you have conversation with
me…
Dinshaw:
Yes,
yes…
Annie:
You talk with me and sometimes you just…oh,
I don’t know...
Dinshaw:
And I…
Annie:
One day you will wake up and see me as clearly as…well, as
I... as you used to see me when I was with you.
Dinshaw:
Not
as you are in the picture?
Annie:
No, but more beautiful. [Laughing] I hope. I think. You
know? I am young, no age. Not that I was that old, but you know, I
was beginning to feel the effect of my illness, you know?
Dinshaw:
I will be like your father when I come.
Annie:
But that is gone…
You will not, you know! You will not!
[Both laughing] You won’t be older! You will be younger. You
will be like a young man of twenty.
Dinshaw:
Yes, yes.
Annie:
Sometimes you used to think that, in the old days, you know,
because of the difference in our age. But it never made any
difference to me.
Dinshaw:
No, it didn’t.
Annie:
Age is nothing. It is the…
Dinshaw:
No, you are perfectly right.
Annie:
...the...what one is within oneself that matters. The intensity
of one’s love and one’s realisation of good. This is what matters
now.
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
Oh, goodness me, I have to go. Isn’t that a nuisance?
Dinshaw:
Now darling...[Laughing]
Annie:
Oh, I am so cross that I have to go so soon. And I have said
nothing to you, only I love you, but that is everything! That is
everything.
Dinshaw:
Darling, I love you.
Annie:
I love you, and if it is possible Dada, please come, if you can,
in July...
Dinshaw:
Yes.
Annie:
...and
so that we can come together, perhaps on my anniversary, eh? In a way
it would be...well of course I understand it is...time is nothing.
But, but don’t…if it is not possible I understand.
Dinshaw:
If
Mr. Flint can manage it.
Annie:
Well, I am sure you will, Mr. Flint.
Flint:
Yes, of course.
Annie:
I want you to. I want you to please. For me and for Dada, eh?
Flint:
Yes
alright.
Dinshaw:
That's
so sweet of you...
Annie:
I want it so much…
Dinshaw:
Thank
you darling.
Annie:
I am selfish, eh? I want to come every day to talk with you.
[Laughing] But Dada darling, a big loving kiss and don’t worry.
Dinshaw:
No darling.
Annie:
I am with you all the time, you know. Together we will always be.
Nothing will ever come between us.
Dinshaw:
Thank you sweetheart.
Annie:
Oh I love you. Bye-bye.
Dinshaw:
Bye-bye sweetheart.
Annie:
Bye-bye darling. But it isn’t goodbye. It is just au revoir,
eh?
Dinshaw:
And give my love to...
Annie:
I will come with you wherever you go. Every step of the road I
tread with you.
Dinshaw:
And give my love to the children.
Annie:
I will. I always...of course, I should’ve told you again. They
send all their love to you. Ahh…I cannot say goodbye.
Dinshaw:
No darling, there is never a goodbye.
Annie:
Au revoir.
Dinshaw:
God bless you.
Mickey:
She’s marvellous. You know she really is beautiful, and you’re
a lucky man you are, that Dr Nanji.
Dinshaw:
I know. I, I thank God every day…
Mickey:
Yes, and my love and God bless you and keep your chin up now and
don’t you worry. God bless you. Bye-bye.
Dinshaw:
Bye-bye.
Flint:
Bye-bye, Mickey. Your wife is so marvellous, you know. I feel
terribly emotional.
Dinshaw:
You have no idea.
Flint:
Your, your love must, uh, I mean it’s unique. Well, no,
I suppose there are other great loves too, but it’s wonderful.
Dinshaw:
Yeah, I, uh, I…when she lived I used to say, 'You’re one in a
million'!
Flint:
Aha...
* Harrods = Annie and Dinshaw are referring to Harrods department store in London.
This transcript was created for the Trust by Mary Beth Mank - August 2017