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Annie Nanji
séance


Recorded: April 28th 1971


Between 1970 and 1983, a retired doctor of chemistry, Dr Dinshaw R. Nanji
of Birmingham University, visited Leslie Flint twice a year for private sittings,
travelling from his home in Gothenburg, Sweden.

Each time, he was fortunate to be able to communicate directly with his wife
Annie Ottilia Nanji, who had died in 1966.

In this recording Annie asks her husband about some private matters
 and Dinshaw still thinks Mickey is a girl !

 


Note: At 1:10 some brief interference from a police or taxi radio is heard.
Notting Hill Gate is mentioned, which is just over a mile from Flint's home of Westbourne Terrace, 
where this séance was originally recorded.

 

Read the full transcript below, as you listen...



Present: Leslie Flint, Dr Dinshaw Nanji

Communicators: Annie Nanji, Mickey


Annie:

[Whispering] I'm so pleased you have come.


Dinshaw:

Yes? Speak a little louder darling.


Annie:

I'm so excited, coming to speak to you again you know.


Dinshaw:
Uh-uh.

Annie:
It is wonderful! I have looked forward to it so much.

Dinshaw:
Now...

Annie:
I have looked forward to coming so much to talk to you.

Dinshaw:
Yes. So have I.


Annie:
Can you hear me?

Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
Dada?

Dinshaw:
Yes darling?

Annie:
I'm here with the children.

Dinshaw:
Hmm?


Annie:
I am here with the children.

Dinshaw:
Yes?

Annie:
I'm so excited!

Dinshaw:
Now darling...

Annie:
You know it's very difficult though to...yes, very excited you know?

Dinshaw:
Yes, I understand darling. Yes.

Annie:
You are excited too.

Dinshaw:
Yes I am...


Annie:
But you come through a bit better. And I'm so thrilled you know. So excited to come and speak with you.

Dinshaw:
Yes darling.

Annie:
It means so much to us, uh?

Dinshaw:
Yes.

Annie:
Every day I come and see you. You hear my knocks?

Dinshaw:
Yes.

Annie:
And you speak to me. And you receive all my thoughts and impressions.

Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
And we talk to each other mentally.


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
Oh dear. What should we talk about? I'm so excited!


Dinshaw:
Now darling...


Annie:
Thank you for the roses.


Dinshaw:
Ah don't mention it. I love you.


Annie:
You bring them for me specially today.


Dinshaw:
Yes I love to...give you flowers.


Mickey:
Hold on. She's very excited.


Dinshaw:
Yes darling. It's natural.


Annie:
Peter.

Dinshaw:
Yes?


Annie:
Peter...Peter.


Dinshaw:
Yes darling?


Mickey:
She's talking about Peter.


Dinshaw:
Peter, yes.


Annie:
I must keep calm.


Dinshaw:
Mmm?


Annie:
I must keep calm.


Dinshaw:
Yes?


Annie:
Patient, you know? I cannot help it. I get so excited.


Dinshaw:
Yes. I know. I know.


Annie:
I think it is because I have looked forward to it so much and I build, you know, myself up for this you know.


Dinshaw:
Yes. I know.


Annie:
I am so thrilled with the pictures. You have got them in a very good prominent position. And you know sometimes you see the light around them?


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
The light around the pictures?


Dinshaw:
Yes I do. 


Annie:
I do little things you know? To try to tell you I am there.


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
Little things - impressions and things, you know.


Dinshaw:
Yes I know. Yes. I know.


Mickey:
Keep her talking.


Dinshaw:
Yes darling. 


Mickey:
If you ask questions, keep her talking I think it will help.


Dinshaw:
Yes I see.


Mickey:
She's too tense at the moment.


Dinshaw:
Yes, yes.


Annie:
What did he say?


Dinshaw:
She says, uh, to keep talking with you.


Annie:
Ah...it is, haha...oh dear...as if I would not huh? But it is a little boy not a little girl.


Dinshaw:
Haha!


Annie:
He is a good soul.


Dinshaw:
Yes.

Annie:
He is a great help.


Dinshaw:
Yes I know.

Annie:
What are you going to do in London, apart from coming to talk with me? Are you going anywhere special?

Dinshaw:
No darling. I've come specially for you.

Annie:
I know but you can't be all the time talking to me.

Dinshaw:
No. No, but...

Annie:
I wondered if you were going anywhere important and special, you know.

Dinshaw:
No. No. And uh...

Annie:
Are you going to have some more pictures done?


Dinshaw:
Uh...


Annie:
No?


Dinshaw:
Yeah I will see darling.


Annie:
Are you going to have any healing? No?


Dinshaw:

No.


Annie:
No?


Dinshaw:
No.

Annie:
Good. It isn't necessary.


Dinshaw:
No, because I have no room any more.


Annie:
The doctors come to you...


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
...when anything is not right, you know?


Dinshaw:
Uh-huh.


Annie:
I look forward so much to the time when we shall be together here.


Dinshaw:
Yeah.


Annie:
I suppose I have to wait a long time.


Dinshaw:
Why darling...


Annie:
You are so healthy!


Dinshaw:
Huh?


Flint:
Hah!


Annie:
You are so healthy.

Dinshaw:
Oh, sometimes I feel like you want me to live to a hundred.

Annie:
No, no. But, uh, I don't think you come here yet awhile.

Dinshaw:
No.

Annie:
I think there is plenty of time ahead you know. Ah, but perhaps in the meantime you can do a lot to help others.


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
And perhaps you will write a book, uh?


Dinshaw:
Yes but, I get impressions about you telling me to make a film, a documentary film.


Annie:
Yeah. That would be very nice.


Dinshaw:
Because that...


Annie:
Would it not be difficult to do?


Dinshaw:
...that - that, uh, reaches millions of people on television on the screen you see? But people have today...very few people read books...


Annie:
No?

Dinshaw:
...you see? Especially in Sweden. They have no time to read books.

Annie:
You mean...your idea to make a film?

Dinshaw:
Yes but I...

Annie:
And then, with us coming to talk to you?


Dinshaw:
Yes.

Annie:
Oh that would be wonderful !


Dinshaw:
Because I think that...


Annie:
But it would it be difficult, no?


Dinshaw:
I don't really know. But I thought the idea comes from you.


Annie:
Well in a way but, uh, we think of different things.


Dinshaw:
Yes that's right.


Annie:
But I think it might be difficult to do. I don't know.


Dinshaw:
Yah?


Annie:
I wonder if you think about this and you have to have some expert advice no?


Dinshaw:
Because I think if - if it appeared on TV in Sweden, a documentary, it would create quite a sensation.


Annie:
Yah. But I don't know. We have to think about it, uh, and see what we can do with the idea.


Dinshaw:
Yes exactly. Yes.


Annie:
But, um, I think this would take a long time, eh?


Dinshaw:
Yes, it would.


Annie:
Yeah. You look so nice today. You have, um, done something to your hair.


Dinshaw:
[Laughing] Yes...I feel younger.


Annie:
You...? Well, that is good.


Dinshaw:
Since you...


Annie:
That is very good, that you feel young - younger.


Dinshaw:
Yes since you talk to me.


Annie:
I like to make you happy. I like you to feel well and young and...you know. And when the time comes I would like you to come here...[Noise in the room]...in your sleep. You know?


Dinshaw:
Yes darling.


Annie:
You go to bed one night and then you wake up here with me. That would be the nice way to come.


Dinshaw:
Yes. I want to come every night.


Annie:
How are you doing with the work...in the laboratory?


Dinshaw:
Well, I - I'm still carrying on dear.


Annie:
Yeah? But you think you might give up very soon now?


Dinshaw:
Well I really don't know. It is in the hands of God whether...


Annie:
But do you wish to carry on?


Dinshaw:
Yes, I would like to go on because I wouldn't like to...because that would break up my health darling.


Annie:
Oui?


Dinshaw:
Yeah. I could work even half-time. That would be better than nothing.


Annie:
Yah, yah. A little here and there, hmm?


Dinshaw:
Hmm?


Annie:
Not all the time.


Dinshaw:
No not all the time, but half-time.


Annie:
Have more time to spend in other things, but, uh, still you continue...?


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
I come to see you in the laboratory.


Dinshaw:
Yes darling.



[Short silence]



Annie:
Everything is so much the same...in the apartment.


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
My things are still there, exactly.


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Mickey:
Ask her questions. Keep her talking.


Dinshaw:
Yes. Have you...have you been to your Mama's?

Flint:
[Coughing]


Annie:
I go to see her.


Dinshaw:
Huh?


Annie:
I see her. 


Dinshaw:
You see her?


Annie:
Of course I see her.


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
I wish everyone understood like you.


Dinshaw:
No...


Annie:
It would be so good if everyone understood like you understand.


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
It would be wonderful.


Dinshaw:

Yes darling. But the day may come when they will. Yes?


Annie:
I hope so.


Dinshaw:
Yes, yes.


Annie:
The stone is finished?


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
You have the name now. Everything finished?


Dinshaw:
Yes. I know.


Annie:
You have left instructions as to what they have to do?


Dinshaw:
Yes darling.


Annie:
I have listened...


Dinshaw:
Yes.

Annie:
You know?


Dinshaw:
Yes. I have.


Annie:
And even the notice to the paper?


Dinshaw:
Beg pardon?


Annie:
The paper? The notice...

Dinshaw:
Yes, yes?

Annie:
...the death notice?

Dinshaw:
Yes, yes?

Annie:
Everything has been arranged.

Dinshaw:
Yes, yes. I feel I am ready to come tomorrow if...

Annie:
Oh, you may think you are ready, but you're not coming yet. You've got to stay longer.


Dinshaw:
Yah.


Annie:
For a while...


Dinshaw:
Yes darling. It's punishment for me.


Annie:
No. No, no. I think it is good for you to stay, because you can tell the world. You can help people to understand this truth...


Dinshaw:
Yah.

Annie:
And give them great comfort, you know? Oh I think back to all the happiness we had together.


Dinshaw:
Yes darling.


Annie:
And the time in India...everything, you know?


Dinshaw:
Yes darling. Yes.


Annie:
But I'm so glad that now that you are settled.


Dinshaw:
Yes darling.


Annie:
I feel it is good to be where you are. I don't think you should make any change.


Dinshaw:
No. I don't need to.


Annie:
No.


Dinshaw:
No.


Annie:
And now you have got more or less everything in order.

Dinshaw:
Yes exactly. Yes.

Annie:
These stones, you've got them all settled?

Dinshaw:
No not the, uh, one I'm thinking of darling.


Annie:
You know there is this one stone...


Dinshaw:
Well that'll be...


Annie:
But what are you going to do...


Dinshaw:
Well...


Annie:
...
when you've not made any definite plan for it?


Dinshaw:
Well, they are trying to sell it...


Flint:
[Coughing]


Annie:

I think it will be sold but, um...


Dinshaw:
...
and I am patient...


Annie:
I think you just have to wait a little longer. It will be sold...


Dinshaw:
It will be sold.


Annie:
...and you will get a price for it.


Dinshaw:
Yes, thank you.


Annie:
And I know why you want the money.


Dinshaw:
Yes, it is...


Annie:
For good work.


Dinshaw:
Yes.

Annie:
What about my necklace?

Dinshaw:
Hmm?

Annie:
Necklace?

Dinshaw:
Yes?


Annie:
Necklace.


Dinshaw:
Yes, I have got.


Annie:
With you?


Dinshaw:
No, not with me darling.


Annie:
No, no?


Dinshaw:
No. Because I'm afraid of carrying, uh...


Annie:
You should not dare...you know...


Dinshaw:
...too much.


Annie:
...too much. It is not good. It is not wise.


Dinshaw:
I carry your pictures with me.


Annie:
Oh?


Dinshaw:
[Laughing]


Annie:
And, uh, the ring...


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
...you have with you?


Dinshaw:
Yes I have.


Annie:
You wear it?


Dinshaw:
Yes. I kiss it.


Annie:
I know. I watch you. And before you come out this morning, you were talking to me.


Dinshaw:
Yes I know.


Annie:
And I was answering you. But why do you doubt yourself sometimes, when you receive my thoughts? Sometimes you think it is not...it is your imagination.


Dinshaw:
Yes exactly darling.


Annie:
But I wish you would try to realise that we are so 'en rapport' together, you know?


Dinshaw:
Yes. Yes I know.


Annie:
And that you receive my thought and inspiration...


Dinshaw:
Yah. Yah.


Annie:
It is as if we are one.


Dinshaw:
Yah.


Annie:
We are not two. We are one.


Dinshaw:
Yah.


Annie:
You know?


Dinshaw:
You know, I often ask you: I wish I could hear your voice in our home.


Annie:
That is what I want to do more than anything. And I am sure eventually, it will be possible.


Dinshaw:
Oh that will be...


Annie:
I shall do it.


Dinshaw:
That will be wonderful !


Annie:
It will be I think when you least expect it. You know, it is an extraordinary thing.


Dinshaw:
Ah.


Annie:
I think that sometimes it is easier for me or for many of us here to come and, uh, do something when you don't expect it.


Dinshaw:
Exactly. Yes.


Annie:
When you are concentrating, I don't know why, I think it is more difficult, you know.


Dinshaw:
And then I hear you say, 'well, I will. I will make my voice heard through...your tape recorder.'


Annie:
Then it will happen. It will come.

Dinshaw:
Yah.

Annie:
And, uh, you know, you have the recorder on?


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
Perhaps one day when you play it back you will hear me.


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:

Like, uh...


Dinshaw:
That's right.


Annie:
This is what we are hoping to do.


Dinshaw:
Exactly darling.


Annie:
Not only me but other people too.


Dinshaw:
Yes darling.

Annie:
It will be marvellous, because it will be something that - well, we have achieved together you know, something we have done...

Dinshaw:
Exactly.


Annie:
You know?


Flint:
[Coughs]


Annie:
Just you and me, uh?


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
I see you have made a difference with the spread of the...bed-spread.


Dinshaw:
Aha, yes darling.

Annie:
It was so.


Dinshaw:
I have even taken photos of the bed-spread with half side on the wrong side and half side on the right side.


Annie:
I know.


Dinshaw:
[Laughing]


Annie:
Ah. Sometimes these silly things are very good, because there are things you don't think about and they are important in a way - to prove, you know?

Dinshaw:
Yes.

Annie:
And that we are near, of course, you know.


Dinshaw:
Yes. Yes.

Annie:
Are you going to museum?


Dinshaw:
Beg pardon?


Annie:
Are you going to museum?


Dinshaw:
Yes darling.


Annie:
Because your thoughts, you have been thinking...

Dinshaw:
As a matter of fact I was going to sign it yesterday, haha, but I'll postpone it until after I come back.


Annie:
You have.


Dinshaw:
Yes darling.


Annie:
That is probably the best thing, you know?


Dinshaw:
Yes darling.


Annie:
You are here in London for one week?


Dinshaw:
Yes darling.


Annie:
And you return.


Dinshaw:
Yes...


Annie:
But you will come and talk to me every time you can, uh?


Dinshaw:
Yes darling I...


Annie:
Because that I would like so much.


Dinshaw:
I will talk to you again day after tomorrow and again next week before I go, so we'll talk three times before I go.


Annie:
Three times?


Dinshaw:
Yes.


Annie:
Oh, I must think of things to say.


Dinshaw:
Yes darling.


Annie:
You know I am very stupid. I feel...


Dinshaw:
Not so darling.


Annie:
No, no. I cannot help it I am...


Dinshaw:
No you are excited too.


Annie:
...
I am so excited you know?


Dinshaw:
Yes I understand.


Annie:
And I think, think, think, 'oh! I must think of things to say that are good'.


Dinshaw:
Yes. Yes, thank you. Because I come specially to hear you. But I will come again, the day after tomorrow.


Annie:
The children are with me.


Flint:
[Sneezing] Excuse me.


Dinshaw:
Are they?


Annie:
What is the matter with you?


Flint:
Oh I'm sorry. I've got a little cold. I presume she was talking to me?

Dinshaw:
The medium has got a little cold: Mr. Flint.


Annie:
I cannot thank him enough.


Dinshaw:
Yes. He's a wonderful man.


Annie:
So grateful, you know?


Dinshaw:
Yes, yes. I know.


Annie:
Ah...oh dear, how stupid. I must talk again, I don't know...I'm so excited...



END OF RECORDING



This transcript was created for the Trust by Lorie McCloud - March 2018