Transcript from a Leslie Flint direct voice communication:

Transcript of George Briggs.

SÉANCE ON FEB 5 1968.

I am very pleased to be here to speak to you for a few moments if I can. I rather feel something like an interloper because I’m not really in any way linked to your band, but I’ve often been present when you’ve had your meetings and have felt the urge to come. I hope you will not mind that. I would like you to know that I have been very interested indeed in everything you are doing, you know.

Can you hear me? My name is Briggs, George Briggs. I was for many years when on your side a member of the Christadelphians. I had no time for this sort of thing, you know, I had no interest in Spiritualism as you call it; in fact I was very much against it. But I have been very blessed since I have been here; a number of people have been very kind and very good to me and have helped me tremendously. I always thought of course that Spiritualism was wicked, of the Devil, but now I know different. I find it extremely difficult to explain in a way, but I do feel now very different about everything and would very much like to try if I can to impress my belief and knowledge on the lives of those who are prepared to listen because I now know that religions as such, though they are important, and they should play a very important part in the lives of men, the foundation of all religions is this: the realisation that life continues and that communication is a fact, given the proper conditions under which we may return, and I realise now that mediums, as such,  providing they are sincere and they are approaching this subject in a spiritual manner can do tremendous good for mankind, because if only the people of the earth realised the full impact of this that life is continuous and that one can under certain conditions communicate it would make all the difference to the people of earth and it would abolish all the barriers that man has created through his prejudice and his intolerance and his ignorance.

The foundation of all creeds, all religions, is the Life to Come; if it were not so there would be no point of course in religion as such, and in my own narrow way when I was on your side I sincerely believed at the time that only those who accepted and believed as I did would inherit the Kingdom of God. I know this is a fallacy now –that all peoples inherit the Kingdom of God because it is a natural law No one is barred, no one is kept out for the simple reason that it is natural law that when man dies his spirit inherits the spiritual realms which are all around and about your earth world. It is inescapable.


There is no one who is left out and there are many, many conditions of life over here and man inherits according to his nature and his achievement, or lack of achievement, going to a lesser condition or place. In other words man receives exactly what he himself has created by his life, his outlook and his way of life. Religion in itself cannot save a man. Religion, no matter what it may be, cannot necessarily make a man a better person; this is something that can only come when man realises that he is already in embryo a spiritual person, a spiritual being. He has all the attributes, all the possibilities already within himself and it is only when man while on earth unfolds his spiritual faculties, his spiritual gifts, he becomes conscious as it were of the power of the Spirit all around and about him and of the possibility of linking up with all those forces of good and all those people who come from this side of  life to help him, to guide him, to instruct him. I now know that in the early days of the Church that the men and the women were inspired by the Holy Spirit.

When I was on your side I often used to talk about the power of the Holy Spirit; I often used to discuss with other friends and members of my belief these things but never understood them. Now I do understand them and I feel compelled to come and to speak and in the hope I shall in so doing be able to impress those particularly who have the faith that I once had, that they might find through my coming the real path to spiritual harmony and spiritual progression. You have been very fortunate beings because you have been able to communicate with many people from this side; indeed you have been more than fortunate, you have been greatly blessed and you have received from all manner of people great comfort great illumination of the mind, and in consequence you are endeavouring to bring this truth to people in all walks of life, and all nationalities.

I realise it is a tremendous task that you have undertaken but I do know that you are surrounded by power which is beyond your earthly comprehension The numbers of souls that I have seen when you have been at these meetings and when you have gone with your machines and you have played these recordings to people in big halls where they have listened intently, and in some cases there have been I know dissension by people who, like myself in the old days, would not accept and were not prepared to accept, because our minds, my mind, was closed to truth. These are the people that are difficult to reach. I know from my own experience how difficult it is to reach people whose minds, like mine once was, were closed to all truth. Indeed when I first came here I found myself in an environment or place, which for me was very satisfactory and very happy. I had no desire for change.  I had no desire for advancement. To me I was in Paradise. But I realise now that I was in a fool’s paradise. I was in a condition of life which I myself had created by my own outlook, because I had believed that only those like unto myself would find Paradise, and in consequence I was in a condition of life which consisted entirely of people of like mind, people who had believed as I had believed, who had accepted as I had accepted what I thought was the complete and absolute truth and in consequence we were content; we were content with our meetings and our singing of hymns and our prayers and we would talk of the time when we should be brought back to earth to be resurrected as we had been told, as we had believed. There would be a great resurrection day when we would all be gathered up together and we would enter into our physical bodies and become earthly people living in an earthly paradise. But I was fortunate because gradually I began to feel within myself a little uneasy.

I cannot explain how this first came about because I must admit at that time I was happy, quite content, but in some strange way I began to feel that perhaps there was something not quite as it should be. I suppose one might say that after a time being in an environment such as I was with everyone thinking, everyone accepting completely and absolutely, as we all did, that this became in a way so repetitious and so monotonous that in some odd way I began to wonder if there were other worlds apart from the one in which I was existing and I suppose in a sense you could say it was a form of curiosity which started me off and gradually I became conscious of other beings who were not of our sect, who were not of our persuasion, and these beings became not only apparent to me, as visions as you would call them, but as real people and I became conscious of  their thoughts. It was as if they were not speaking and yet I could hear within myself the things that they were trying to convey to me. At first I was very concerned and worried about this.

I thought I was having, if not delusions, I was having perhaps things given to me by evil spirits who were trying to turn me against what I still believed to be the true religion, the true way of life, and I would not listen I would close my mind to them, and when I did that they could not reach me. But this curiosity of mine, if that is what it could be called, eventually got the better of me and I began not only to see these entities but I began to hear their voice with great clarity talking to me as if it were to my soul, trying to explain to me that I was living in a world of  delusion, I was living in a life which I had created;  because I myself would not accept or would not realise the possibilities of other planes, other existences and other truths and eventually I was asked if I would make the experiment to go on what you would call a trip. At first I did not understand this; I was baffled; I could not imagine how if I did take this chance or whatever it was that they offered me how I would ever get back if I were dissatisfied and found that they were not truthful and that they were deluding me.

I was, you would say, in a state of bewilderment but at the same time my curiosity was such that I thought I would make this attempt and see if there was anything in what they had told me. And I went with one particular soul who seemed to be the leader of the group, whose name was Bernard and he told me as we made our way through many places out into vast, vast countryside which was beautiful and very pleasant; and as we walked, and we did walk, because our feet touched the ground, and yet there seemed to be no tiredness, there seemed to be no feeling of exertion, I listened to what he had to tell me and he explained that he when on earth had been a Roman Catholic priest. This immediately caused me great concern because in our particular religious body we almost looked upon the Catholics as really those, as being combined with the Spiritualists, the Devil’s own children, and this caused me great concern and he tried very hard to put me at my ease by explaining to me that he was a Catholic the same as I was of my own faith and that we were both wrong, that we both held very strong beliefs which were far from the truth and that we should forget what we were, but rather be concerned with what we might become if we made it so that our minds were open to receive.

But after a time I felt more confident, I realised he was no longer a Roman catholic and that he was obviously a man of great sincerity. But at the same time I felt in myself a great deal of concern as to whether I was doing the right thing because after all the world in which I had existed, that is, the plane on which I had existed, was for me a happy one, although there was this feeling at times of discontent, but there was the feeling that possibly there was something that I might find, you know, further afield. Anyway I went with this soul and we seemed to go through not only vast countries or countryside, we went through great cities and many of these cities became to me most interesting because they seemed to be representing all manner of  nations.

There were places we went through where all the people and the buildings suggested that they were of this nationality or that nationality, and also we passed not only through cities but small communities which I suppose you could call villages in which there were groups of people who seemed to be dressed vastly different and indeed in some of the cities vastly different to anything I remembered on earth. But I was told that they were sometimes groups of people who had reached a certain stage of evolution and who were content in their own way  of life , but their minds were back in the centuries of earth and that they were living and existing and dressing in the same way that they did perhaps three or four hundred years previously when on earth; but they would eventually begin to seek for themselves and they would then be helped and then they would be able to get far beyond their present situation.

And also in my wanderings I saw all manner of animals and all manner of foliage and all manner of conditions of country that were extraordinary because you would no sooner go through what was obviously to outward appearances a beautiful countryside like you would see in England but all of a sudden come across what would appear to be a vast desert and this seemed, particularly to one who had never been to a desert like me, seemed pretty grim, and I thought goodness me we have got to go through all this desert and I suppose it’s a throwback to the earth mind but I thought “Goodness me the heat of the sun” , and then I realised there was no sun, though everywhere there was illumination it’s true, there was no darkness but the odd thing was that although there was this illumination and light there was no obvious source and I spoke to my companion about this; he said surely you realise that here we have no sun but we have illumination, but it is a natural illumination which comes from the spheres.

This puzzled me, I couldn’t make head nor tail of it how you could get light from the spheres. Of course I remember in my own sphere we had night and we had day. In other words we had darkness descend and we would sleep just as we did on earth; and I noticed that as we went further and further that the light became not more intense but it seemed to have a glow which I can’t describe and it seemed that there were no shadows and as one progressed and as one seemed to get further and further away from the condition of life in which I had existed there were not only changes in atmosphere, because atmosphere is very real to us the same as it is to you, but there were changes in so many ways. At first they were so subtle that I   didn’t realise there were changes except in perhaps architecture in the way of buildings and the way some people were dressed, and in various ways I realised there were subtle changes but they were not so apparent as all that, I didn’t take that much notice. But when I came to this vast desert I really felt apprehensive, I thought, “This is a bit steep you know, goodness me this seems vast”, but my friend said to me:

“As far as you can see you see desert. But’, he said, “Have confidence. It will take little time to reach the edge of the desert and when you reach the edge of the desert you’ll find great changes, and this is your big test, you’ve come so far with me, this is your opportunity, if you feel that you wish to return I cannot stop you but if you have sufficient faith within yourself to go on and to go through the desert, there you will find at the other end all that you could possibly desire and you will have your feet for the first time on the path of spiritual progression. It is for you to decide. I cannot force you. It is for you to decide”.

And I deliberated about this and I thought I have come so far and yet I felt if I were to go further…. I felt that I would never be able to return across the desert on my own. I would need companionship and I would need the strength that this person seemed to have that I had not got within myself. It was a great test for me as to whether I had the strength, had the courage, and had the faith to go forward, or to return to where I knew at least the conditions and the environment and the people. But something within me had given me that strength to say yes I will go with you and so we went , and as my faith, I suppose it must have been my faith within me strengthened, so it seemed that the desert seemed no distance to traverse; indeed I realise now that it was a test that had been set me, that the desert in a sense was an illusion, that in a sense it did not exist.

It was given to me as a test to see if I was ready to reach a new environment and a new life that awaited me, it was essential you see that I should go through all these different places, seeing these different peoples in their different environments and conditions and to gradually assimilate from this new knowledge to realise there were other spheres, other places, other peoples far removed from my own condition of life to which I had become accustomed, and that the desert was the test as to whether I was really ready to face this adventure and this great opportunity that presented itself to me.

If I had returned I should have been in a sense in the same position as I had been before, but because I had come so far and I had seen and assimilated gradually new experience I realised that if there were these new experiences and new forms of life there must be further beyond the desert a greater experience awaiting me. I’d then cast aside my chains and I had become free and therefore the desert, which in a sense was but an illusion, soon passed and I became in consequence ready to receive that which awaited me. And there very shortly I found a vast city and it looked in the light that shone upon it as if it were made of mother-of-pearl, all manner of colour seemed to be there soft  and suffused and radiant and beautiful, and as I entered there were many peoples lining, I suppose you would say the streets, and yet they were vast, these streets, they were not like streets as you would understand them on earth, they were vast roads leading to what seemed to me to be some great edifice, I suppose you could say it was a palace {I know now it was not a palace}, but it was a great place with an enormous dome which seemed to shine and to glisten and to have almost life of its own, which I realise now indeed [it had], because when places here are built on certain spheres, by the thoughts of the individuals coupled with their effort and all of that that goes into it, those places are living and breathing, because the human element that goes into them is strong because so much of goodness being  given to the construction by the individuals who create.

Anyway in this vast building I found great numbers of people dressed in robes of great beauty in many hues, many colours. and they seemed to blend with the building. Their faces shone with a great light and their eyes  seemed to have a vitality and life that I had never seen before, and they were carrying great bouquets of flowers and they were singing or chanting, and there was great music in the background, and I did not know this but this was the welcome to one who had been rescued, one who had been taken out of the darkness, you might say, of the mind and brought into the reality of the truth of the Spirit  in this vast place where all these people had assembled just for one person, and it made me think of something that I remembered from long ago in the good book , how the shepherd rejoices when one is found and one is gathered into the fold. Here there seemed to be such a great spirit of rejoicing, such a great spirit of love. such great comradeship, such great understanding, and here I found that peace which I feel I want to give to the whole world. I want to tell everyone that there is no barrier; there is no barrier at all to man once his mind is unshackled, once he is free to think for himself,  once he is free to accept the truth of the Spirit, once he is able as it were to open up the door of his mind to let the power of the Holy Spirit flow in.

And all around and about you are these souls who come with love to open the door for you to make possible the path and the way and to give you the insight and to give to you the opportunity that they have found. And believe me if you accept the opportunity, if you accept the illumination of the Spirit, if you accept the love and the power of the Spirit that comes to you while you are still on earth, that is the greatest blessing. So many have to wait, so many have to go through varying degrees and conditions of life here before they reach that stage of illumination that I have found, for instance. You have been blessed, and to those who listen to my voice I say,

“Accept the power of the Holy Spirit. Accept the word of the Holy Spirit. Accept those who come to you with illumination of the mind and the spirit, who come to show you the path that you may tread it, that they may help you over the difficulties of life, that they may make possible the way for you, that we and they and all of us be of good faith, be of good heart and know that all is well, that God is, that God loves all his children and that all have the opportunity. Accept proof , cast away the shackles that bind you and listen to the voice of the Holy Spirit and know that all the great saints, all the great teachers, all the great souls that come to you come in love to serve and to help to guide and uplift and to bring you that peace that the world cannot give. My blessings be upon each and every one of you who may listen to my voice. May God bless you all”.